donovan_dmc said:
There's a single bd staff member that's involved in day to day site operations, that's NotMeNotYou
Were it not for him and the rest of the voulenteer staff advocating extensively I would take a very good bet the policies over everything would be much more lax
Hell, we nearly got ai generated content forcefully allowed on this site until the head admin managed to compromise to redirect it to a different domain rather than being dumped here

I'd bet more on the influence and reach e6 has being the reason BD keeps us around rather than any like for the site itself

if I'm being honest, AI content would've been really bad for site morale. crumbling to allow AI rather than remain with the more staunchly pro-artist stance (the thing that the site's been trying its damnedest to foster) would've looked really pretty bad. probably what I'd describe as an EoC-level event.

really glad NMNY stood firm on that.

At this point, the only way out is to rally Arizona voters to do a Citizen's Veto on the bill. If it it really is that unpopular (and I have decent hope it is), it should get overturned, but the timing is awful.

dba_afish said:
if I'm being honest, AI content would've been really bad for site morale. crumbling to allow AI rather than remain with the more staunchly pro-artist stance (the thing that the site's been trying its damnedest to foster) would've looked really pretty bad. probably what I'd describe as an EoC-level event.

really glad NMNY stood firm on that.

Remember, if anything is done entirely by machine, it's SLOP to me (That's not a bad rhyme).

thegreatwolfgang said:
If your post was simply hidden before, take it as a sign that you should stop whatever it is you were doing.
If you don't care, I guess the least they could do is slap you for Disruptive Behavior.

I meant "hate-mongering" in a more hyperbolic sense, since I think it's silly that my post got hidden.

I violated none of those rules (and don't plan on doing so), and my post was on-topic. If you wish, I can explain why I think that.

Vaguely gesturing at rules and claiming posts you don't like violate them is a form of unjust censorship. Since you're here, I'd assume you think unjust censorship is wrong.

I think your post is a violation of the disruptive behavior rule (1.1, bullet 1). It intentionally uses aggressive words like "slap" to bait a reaction, and implies that I'm a troll who "doesn't care."
See how easy it is to do?

binaryhedgehog said:
At this point, the only way out is to rally Arizona voters to do a Citizen's Veto on the bill. If it it really is that unpopular (and I have decent hope it is), it should get overturned, but the timing is awful.

I don't think this will happen. Only two veto referendums have made it onto the ballot in Nevada's entire history, and both of them failed.

Now that the worst has come to pass, really seems the time of the panic button also went. 90 days for BD inc. and several websites to change states without deep issues before or after august sound like an uncomfortable close shave to me, unless the process is easier than I thought. I think statements will have to be made to quell concern if the migration does happen and happens on time without further issues, because the fear of the news is gonna spread fast in the morning.
Hope they can pull off the migration though.

sanity_dance said:
I meant "hate-mongering" in a more hyperbolic sense, since I think it's silly that my post got hidden.

I violated none of those rules (and don't plan on doing so), and my post was on-topic. If you wish, I can explain why I think that.

Vaguely gesturing at rules and claiming posts you don't like violate them is a form of unjust censorship. Since you're here, I'd assume you think unjust censorship is wrong.

I think your post is a violation of the disruptive behavior rule (1.1, bullet 1). It intentionally uses aggressive words like "slap" to bait a reaction, and implies that I'm a troll who "doesn't care."
See how easy it is to do?

At no point did I say that your current comment violated any rule.
I'm saying that if you have had any of your past comments hidden in this topic due to its content, you would most definitely be slapped for continuing to talk about it as that would be disruptive.

I'm also saying this because someone on this thread did, in fact, get slapped for Disruptive Behavior because they started sidetracking with comments about fighting against the government.
If you (or anybody else) want to hate-monger in a "deliberate" sense, just know that that would be the expected outcome.

Welp, time to start ramping up my panic downloading of the good stuff on this site, I should've applied Murphy's Law here when I first heard this bill making the waves, I was optimistic that Katie could VETO it because of her history, but nope, it pasted, we got 90 days 'til destruction, download what you love, 'cause at this rate this site ain't surviving, hell I won't be surprised if the effects of the bill hits sooner because some stuff behind the scenes

I shouldn't be surprised, yet hope blinds, though I'll be really surprised if this gets reversed, but at this point I'm assuming the worse

sanity_dance said:
I think your post is a violation of the disruptive behavior rule (1.1, bullet 1). It intentionally uses aggressive words like "slap" to bait a reaction, and implies that I'm a troll who "doesn't care."
See how easy it is to do?

Being "slapped" for a rule or with a record is very common terminology here, and not really hostile or baiting in any way
Hell, it's even used among staff

crazybu5grandt0ur said:
Remember, if anything is done entirely by machine, it's SLOP to me (That's not a bad rhyme).

What's the rhyme?

nin10dope said:
What's the rhyme?

Machine and Me rhyme (At least I think they do...)

crazybu5grandt0ur said:
Machine and Me rhyme (At least I think they do...)

I am very concerned with how you are pronouncing both of those words to make them even remotely rhyme

Im just worried about the fate of this site. We know nothing for sure and it freaks me out. A lot of art is here and can ONLY be found here.

I hope for the best but fear the worst.

crazybu5grandt0ur said:
Machine and Me rhyme (At least I think they do...)

You somehow tricked yourself into thinking all the rhyming isn't in "en-tire-ly" -> "slop to me".

thegreatwolfgang said:
At no point did I say that your current comment violated any rule.
I'm saying that if you have had any of your past comments hidden in this topic due to its content, you would most definitely be slapped for continuing to talk about it as that would be disruptive.

I'm also saying this because someone on this thread did, in fact, get slapped for Disruptive Behavior because they started sidetracking with comments about fighting against the government.
If you (or anybody else) want to hate-monger in a "deliberate" sense, just know that that would be the expected outcome.

Alright, sorry, I misinterpreted your post as more hostile than it was.

sanity_dance said:
Alright, sorry, I misinterpreted your post as more hostile than it was.

That's not uncommon, unfortunately

Not to be mister hindsight but I think the owners really should of started with a plan to move months ago if a veto was the only thing stopping it.

dinoscrouge said:
Not to be mister hindsight but I think the owners really should of started with a plan to move months ago if a veto was the only thing stopping it.

Agreed

We don't know if they have or haven't done that exact thing. No official statement or plan of attack has been made yet.
Besides "talking to lawyers"

dinoscrouge said:
Not to be mister hindsight but I think the owners really should of started with a plan to move months ago if a veto was the only thing stopping it.

Who's to say they hadn't? There would be no point in beginning the process of enacting said plan until just now.

furizon_szanio said:
Welp, time to start ramping up my panic downloading of the good stuff on this site, I should've applied Murphy's Law here when I first heard this bill making the waves, I was optimistic that Katie could VETO it because of her history, but nope, it pasted, we got 90 days 'til destruction, download what you love, 'cause at this rate this site ain't surviving, hell I won't be surprised if the effects of the bill hits sooner because some stuff behind the scenes

I shouldn't be surprised, yet hope blinds, though I'll be really surprised if this gets reversed, but at this point I'm assuming the worse

Yeah, it'd probably be wisest to just operate under the assumption that the site won't exist in 90 days, as that's the absolute worst-case scenario. That way, whatever happens, at least you'll be prepared.

Hopefully, we get some communication from BD regarding their plans for E621. They're not publicly traded so I can't imagine why they wouldn't communicate, unless they're scared of some form of retaliation by the AZ government, which seems absurd, but who knows.

It would be really cool if BD implemented a button for users to mass-download their entire favorites library. I wonder if the site will go under strain for the next day or two as everybody panic-downloads their favorites.
(I wonder if we'll have a Y2K moment where too many people try to download too much at once and it causes the site to go down, thus prompting people to think that it's down for good and validating their fears, lol.)

If dba afish is right and BD has to relocate all of their operations, that sounds like a lot of people will be put out of jobs, mainly from the factory that makes the sex toys. No idea what the economic situation is in AZ, as I live nowhere near there, but I would have thought the economic downturn in the shipping and manufacturing sectors from BD leaving would matter more to the AZ politicians than passing a pro-censorship bill for brownie points. Surely they considered that, right?
I feel kinda bad for the people who work there, it's such a dumb reason to lose your job. But they're manufacturing dildos for furries, so maybe they're not too in love with their employment at BD in the first place.

welp. state's cooked, hope the site isn't cooked. god damn, I'm disappointed in hobbs.

Well... shit.
Here's hoping e6 can pull through.

Wait, what happened? Did the law pass? Well, fuck I guess.

I trust the site owners have a decent plan, so I'm going to try and keep calm.

I have faith the official Bad Dragon government lobbying agent, Grant Gape, will have the resilience and flexibility to sort this situation out.

So there are basically these options now, if I do understand it correctly:
- Move server.
- Comply and make ID age verification mandatory.
- Remove all porn.
- Give up and let the site die.

Honestly, if the can't manage to move the servers in time, they're better off at letting the site just die. Removing all porn would make this site useless (let's just face it) and forcing Id verification will most likely reduce traffic by a gigantic amount; if the giants like PornHub and co. rather just block access from such countries that enforce Id verification, then you know it's absolutely not worth it.

t24ttffrg said:
Wait, what happened? Did the law pass? Well, fuck I guess.

Doesn't even realize the can of worms he just opened. This is gonna backfire. HARD.

theunstickyone said:
Doesn't even realize the can of worms he just opened. This is gonna backfire. HARD.

not to be a doomer, but this is a copycat law of one that's been done all over the southern US at this point, has faced legal challenges but ultimately gets the judicial greenlight in the end (see: texas), and it hasn't popped off any protests or anything of that sort. if it hasn't happened there, it's not gonna happen here. only way out is to move the site(s) out of state and geoblock the IPs of any state that has these laws, considering their method of action (in this case, letting AZ residents sue sites into oblivion if they're found to be not in compliance of a law that is intentionally written to be difficult/impossible to comply with)

I m downloading all my favs asap

abecedeef said:
I m downloading all my favs asap

i did that a few days ago lmao

abecedeef said:
I m downloading all my favs asap

same. Getting what I can while I can.

temjin290 said:
not to be a doomer, but this is a copycat law of one that's been done all over the southern US at this point, has faced legal challenges but ultimately gets the judicial greenlight in the end (see: texas), and it hasn't popped off any protests or anything of that sort. if it hasn't happened there, it's not gonna happen here. only way out is to move the site(s) out of state and geoblock the IPs of any state that has these laws, considering their method of action (in this case, letting AZ residents sue sites into oblivion if they're found to be not in compliance of a law that is intentionally written to be difficult/impossible to comply with)

I think people should prepare for the worst, but I do want to note that the US Supreme Court has not yet ruled in the Texas case (Free Speech Coalition, Inc. v. Paxton). Their ruling is expected in late June / early July of this year. A US Appeals Court ruled in favor on Texas and the Supreme Court did not stop Texas from enforcing the law while the case is under review at the Supreme Court.

donkdewd said:
I think people should prepare for the worst, but I do want to note that the US Supreme Court has not yet ruled in the Texas case (Free Speech Coalition, Inc. v. Paxton). Their ruling is expected in late June / early July of this year. A US Appeals Court ruled in favor on Texas and the Supreme Court did not stop Texas from enforcing the law while the case is under review at the Supreme Court.

I also wouldn't expect them to rule against it based on their remarks, so I'm not holding my breath.

I'm not going to panic, as there's no point. There are things I could panic over, but this isn't one of them. The greatest tragedy from a potential loss of e621 is because of how great a resource it is. I've connected with many artists thanks to this platform because I discovered their work here in one place and even became good friends with them since joining the site 13 years ago. If the site were to go under I'd have to find another resource for that, and it's much harder to do in places like X/Twitter or even FurAffinity.

If e6 is shut down I'll miss the community aspect rather than the art content itself. :'(

czyszy said:
If e6 is shut down I'll miss the community aspect rather than the art content itself. :'(

To quote a message sent on the discord by site admin Cinder ; "There is no need to panic. BD are looking into what we can do about this situation.
Currently, we don't have anything to tell you about what is going to happen, but we are not shutting down.

There had been plans put in place in preparation to a situation like this.
While we expected the governor to veto the bill, it does not mean that everyone sat on their asses in the meantime.

Once we have a solution ready, we'll let you know."

joeyski said:
To quote a message sent on the discord by one of the staff members; "There is no need to panic. BD are looking into what we can do about this situation.
Currently, we don't have anything to tell you about what is going to happen, but we are not shutting down.

There had been plans put in place in preparation to a situation like this.
While we expected the governor to veto the bill, it does not mean that everyone sat on their asses in the meantime.

Once we have a solution ready, we'll let you know."

Well it is somewhat comforting, at least, to know that they won't shut down.

The only reasonable thing I can see happening is a full move of the serverhosts of things like f-list and E6, which while costly, seems to be the best option.
Some small comfort at least.

Welp, I'm gonna start flooding Twitter with porn to get it over that 33.33% threshold and sue.

t24ttffrg said:
So there are basically these options now, if I do understand it correctly:
- Move server.
- Comply and make ID age verification mandatory.
- Remove all porn.
- Give up and let the site die.

Honestly, if the can't manage to move the servers in time, they're better off at letting the site just die. Removing all porn would make this site useless (let's just face it) and forcing Id verification will most likely reduce traffic by a gigantic amount; if the giants like PornHub and co. rather just block access from such countries that enforce Id verification, then you know it's absolutely not worth it.

they cant let the site die because, frankly, it means letting all their other sites and entire business die. gotta remember all their websites and such are in Arizona so letting the site die means bankruptcy. And removing all porn is pointless because their primary website is a sex toy store. and I doubt they'll comply because the bill is actually worded in a way that makes it impossible to comply if you really think about it as the removal of data used to log in part of the law, while important for privacy both removes the evidence of complying and frankly data recovery exists because its impossible to truly remove things from the internet so screwed ether way if you comply. so really moving servers is probably the only option.

speaking of, people keep saying moving servers is expensive but just how expensive?

I'm not only mad bcs of the age verification bill being passed I'm mad bcs furries gon' 100% get targeted by the government eventually. Aint no way that the IDs gonna get deleted after verif.

Also what would even happen to ppl outside the country do they lose access altogether if a government database is used or..?

Also also, am I paranoid for thinking that this specific bill has been proposed/passed to specifically target furries? Excluding e6 How many porn sites are hosted in Arizona? Furry or otherwise.

antitar said:
Also what would even happen to ppl outside the country do they lose access altogether if a government database is used or..?

AFAIK, Govs don't have any infra to handle age verification, so websites have to rely on 3rd party services. Those can usually process and verify IDs from any country.

antitar said:
Also also, am I paranoid for thinking that this specific bill has been proposed/passed to specifically target furries? Excluding e6 How many porn sites are hosted in Arizona? Furry or otherwise.

Eh. It's probably just their usual think of le children shtick, but who knows.

joeyski said:
To quote a message sent on the discord by site admin Cinder ; "There is no need to panic. BD are looking into what we can do about this situation.
Currently, we don't have anything to tell you about what is going to happen, but we are not shutting down.

There had been plans put in place in preparation to a situation like this.
While we expected the governor to veto the bill, it does not mean that everyone sat on their asses in the meantime.

Once we have a solution ready, we'll let you know."

Well, that's nice. Still though.

Damn

Like, I know shits bad right now, but
Giving up and admitting defeat is NOT an option.

If anything, you should do your part in making sure that it doesn't come to that.

I know we don't really have answers, right now. But I've just got to ask.

Is there literally any scenario where as an AZ resident, I don't get IP blocked from E6 when the solution goes through (eg. they move locations, I'm anticipating) and have to use a VPN to even have the privilege of seeing e6 sourced images embed and show up in discord, let alone visiting the site itself?

joeyski said:
Giving up and admitting defeat is NOT an option.

This. Whatever it takes, don't let them win.

Also, hoping people with the means and capacity have already made backups of the entire library of artwork here. Just in case.

midnite-sunrise said:
Is there literally any scenario where as an AZ resident, I don't get IP blocked from E6 when the solution goes through (eg. they move locations, I'm anticipating) and have to use a VPN to even have the privilege of seeing e6 sourced images embed and show up in discord, let alone visiting the site itself?

I don't really see a scenario where you'd be able to browse from AZ without a VPN if/when the relocation happens. Like connections from any other state with AV laws, connections from AZ would most likely have to be blocked to prevent lawsuits.

stankdawg said:
This. Whatever it takes, don't let them win.

Also, hoping people with the means and capacity have already made backups of the entire library of artwork here. Just in case.

People probably already did, let's be real here. A site this large probably has plenty of dedicated individuals for times like these.

midnite-sunrise said:
I know we don't really have answers, right now. But I've just got to ask.

Is there literally any scenario where as an AZ resident, I don't get IP blocked from E6 when the solution goes through (eg. they move locations, I'm anticipating) and have to use a VPN to even have the privilege of seeing e6 sourced images embed and show up in discord, let alone visiting the site itself?

Ip blocks are usually only to the site itself and not the cdn
You wouldn't notice any issue on Discord unless the cdn was blocked in Washington (Charlotte specifically) as that's where most of Discord's cdn traffic comes from since they proxy every single image request

All I have to say is... this does not look good.

Short-term fear: e6 is the only art platform I have left, and its continued existence is in doubt.
Long-term fear: the stage is being set for SCREEN, which means I won't be allowed to create artwork at all.

lendrimujina said:
Long-term fear: the stage is being set for SCREEN, which means I won't be allowed to create artwork at all.

What is SCREEN?

there is also the cosa bill and that even worse ´´anti-porn´´ bill that is being put into consideration today

antitar said:
What is SCREEN?

A proposed bill to change the legal definition of obscenity at the federal level, so that no adult content will be protected by the First Amendment at all and thus can be prosecuted.
It was introduced twice before, both times dying in committee, but the Senate was Democrat-controlled both of those times, and it isn't anymore.

The thing is, porn bans have been tried in the past and collapsed under their own weight like Prohibition did
It would probably result in the creation of a new dark web entirely.

lendrimujina said:
A proposed bill to change the legal definition of obscenity at the federal level, so that no adult content will be protected by the First Amendment at all and thus can be prosecuted.
It was introduced twice before, both times dying in committee, but the Senate was Democrat-controlled both of those times, and it isn't anymore.

That's not SCREEN, that's S.1671
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1671

SCREEN is the federal level age verification bill.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/737/text

j4tapi said:
That's not SCREEN, that's S.1671
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1671

SCREEN is the federal level age verification bill.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/737/text

Oh god there's two of them

j4tapi said:
That's not SCREEN, that's S.1671
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1671

SCREEN is the federal level age verification bill.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/737/text

>Mike Lee

Honestly I won't really put much concern on this one. From what I've been told and learned, the person suggesting this is rather infamous and hated by even his own compatriots.

joeyski said:
>Mike Lee

Honestly I won't really put much concern on this one. From what I've been told and learned, the person suggesting this is rather infamous and hated by even his own compatriots.

I'm aware of his reputation and history. But the environment is different this time. That is why I'm afraid.

The boy may have a history of crying wolf, but the wolf will come the moment we stop showing up.

lendrimujina said:
I'm aware of his reputation and history. But the environment is different this time. That is why I'm afraid.

The boy may have a history of crying wolf, but the wolf will come the moment we stop showing up.

Still, it will likely be fought by every single device manufacturer if it even passes into law because ain’t nobody got time for allat

joeyski said:
Still, it will likely be fought by every single device manufacturer if it even passes into law because ain’t nobody got time for allat

Sure hope so.

After just reading the first 5 or so posts in this thread how on earth is this not locked already?
The prior ones that turned to political shit slinging were. Damn.

I think things will turn out fine and backup plans are currently available. I doubt this site would be caught off guard and has plenty of avenues to explore from.

If anything 90 days is a pretty generous ammount of time to move away from Arizona for stuff this site can get done in less than a month.

glaciusverglas said:
After just reading the first 5 or so posts in this thread how on earth is this not locked already?
The prior ones that turned to political shit slinging were. Damn.

They're letting us have a containment thread to vent in even if it serves no practical purpose ig

ur sona's fire tho ️‍🔥️‍🔥️‍🔥

I'm trying to calm down, but my stomach is trying to escape.

I'll proceed with downloading my faves library, and I'll mark each by author so I can still follow elsewhere should worst come to pass. If this site goes down, it'll go down swinging at least.

God, this is so dumb. Governments shouldn't have the right to strike at companies like this the way they are in HB-2112, or SCREEN. Regardless of laws, kids will be kids, they'll find a way to view pornographic content, in whatever creative way they can find.

Take it from me, I've been banned from e6 for signing up as a minor, and the only reason I got caught was because I was in the Discord asking for help running a Danbooru myself, and one of the mods saw my portfolio lol.

Of course, I had to wait until I was 18, and submit proper information to get my account re-instated, but this proves my point, kids are dumb, and will do whatever they want, regardless of the rules. It's like that Hey Arthur meme where DW won't read the sign on the door, they don't READ and then just do whatever despite the consequences.

I know e6 / BD has a plan of action regarding this passing, and plans will unfold when they're ready. Give it time folks, let them cook.

I'm 99.99% sure that the total porn ban is just to make the federal age verif seem reasonable.

That's... Like... Manipulation 101 or something (Forgot the actual name for it lol).

antitar said:
I'm 99.99% sure that the total porn ban is just to make the federal age verif seem reasonable.

That's... Like... Manipulation 101 or something (Forgot the actual name for it lol).

Door in the face.

phoenixsheppy said:
God, this is so dumb. Governments shouldn't have the right to strike at companies like this the way they are in HB-2112, or SCREEN. Regardless of laws, kids will be kids, they'll find a way to view pornographic content, in whatever creative way they can find.

Take it from me, I've been banned from e6 for signing up as a minor, and the only reason I got caught was because I was in the Discord asking for help running a Danbooru myself, and one of the mods saw my portfolio lol.

Of course, I had to wait until I was 18, and submit proper information to get my account re-instated, but this proves my point, kids are dumb, and will do whatever they want, regardless of the rules. It's like that Hey Arthur meme where DW won't read the sign on the door, they don't READ and then just do whatever despite the consequences.

I know e6 / BD has a plan of action regarding this passing, and plans will unfold when they're ready. Give it time folks, let them cook.

I mean, Stump and other Republicons have been talking about ways to get Stump a third term.
So what rights people vs the government have, and what is considered overstepping, are going out the window as fake Americans (Sorry; They prefer 'Republicans') look to dismantle one of the cores of American democracy.

At that point, they may as well do whatever they want to whoever they want, without such pesky things as 'laws', 'majority votes', 'freedoms' 'the Constitution', or 'rights' getting in the way.

Why did the news for 7 may got deleted?

My pessimist (And a bit paranoid, lol) ass thinks that BD actually plans on closing E6 (Idk how much it makes them)

I'm gonna be sad if e6 really does go down. The porn is good but the community's humor is even better lol

That being said, since site owners have been aware of the weirdo legislative pushes for a while, I'm sure they have some backup plans to ensure site survival. I'd be happy to donate to help the cause. Does e6 still accept subscribestar or should I look elsewhere to send my money?

antitar said:
Why did the news for 7 may got deleted?

Presumably because it's no longer relevant. You can't contact anyone to vote against the bill or urge Hobbs to veto it since it's been signed already.

j4tapi said:
I don't really see a scenario where you'd be able to browse from AZ without a VPN if/when the relocation happens. Like connections from any other state with AV laws, connections from AZ would most likely have to be blocked to prevent lawsuits.

-sigh-. Fuck.

donovan_dmc said:
Ip blocks are usually only to the site itself and not the cdn
You wouldn't notice any issue on Discord unless the cdn was blocked in Washington (Charlotte specifically) as that's where most of Discord's cdn traffic comes from since they proxy every single image request

This part is actually a relief... I could just use Opera's built in VPN to browse E6 and then all the ways I actually use E6 (it's CDN via images.. I think the CDN calls itself static1-e621??) are safe.

This helps a lot, thank you so much. Maybe this won't be so bad. I know how weird it would be to say that making use of the immense art on E6 is important to me, but it is. A lot of inspiration, and artists are found through E6 at least in my experience. To lose it even when I'm not actively visiting the site would be a HUGE blow to morale. (I often use the direct links on discord and steam)

umbraltrespasser said:
I'm gonna be sad if e6 really does go down. The porn is good but the community's humor is even better lol

That being said, since site owners have been aware of the weirdo legislative pushes for a while, I'm sure they have some backup plans to ensure site survival. I'd be happy to donate to help the cause. Does e6 still accept subscribestar or should I look elsewhere to send my money?

I'm just gonna be bummed because e621 is a way for me to look at art without having to use Twitter or BlueSky, as both of those sites are atrocious for art sharing despite being the go-to for most.

temjin290 said:
not to be a doomer, but this is a copycat law of one that's been done all over the southern US at this point, has faced legal challenges but ultimately gets the judicial greenlight in the end (see: texas), and it hasn't popped off any protests or anything of that sort. if it hasn't happened there, it's not gonna happen here. only way out is to move the site(s) out of state and geoblock the IPs of any state that has these laws, considering their method of action (in this case, letting AZ residents sue sites into oblivion if they're found to be not in compliance of a law that is intentionally written to be difficult/impossible to comply with)

I think the reason we haven’t seen big protests yet is because people can still get around these bans using VPNs or tools like TOR. These laws don’t actually make porn disappear — they just make it harder to access unless you know how to bypass the restrictions. Since people still have access, there’s less of an urgent push to protest.

If the government ever tried to block VPNs, TOR, and porn all at once, that’s when I think we’d see a lot more public outcry.

Also, support for banning porn completely has dropped a lot over the years — like, back in 1973 about 42% of Americans were for a total ban, but now it’s closer to 28%.

And honestly, these laws mostly target sites hosted inside the US, so sites based overseas aren’t really affected as much.

watsit said:
Presumably because it's no longer relevant. You can't contact anyone to vote against the bill or urge Hobbs to veto it since it's been signed already.

And I'm guessing it hasn't been replaced because the staff is still trying to not cause a panic. Which... is understandable, as everyone freaking out probably will make any contingency plans they have in mind more difficult.