You ever notice that 90% of unnecessary website layout redesigns are literally just 'make less stuff fit on the screen' and 'create more empty space'?

I definitely wanted somewhat bigger thumbnails on desktop because for busy images I could barely tell what was going on, i.e. trying to find mistagged art, say tiger with a dildo where dildo isn't tagged, have to click on way too many pics where there's something there but it could be a dildo, or that overly popular floating ghost penis, or it was just a can of soda. But this doesn't actually help with that, it just made the site look worse without any benefit.

I really dont like the new big thumbnails, I hope they make a setting or something to go back to the old layout

I hate to be rude because I'm sure a lot of time and effort went into this update, but I can't really say anything good about it. The ui is a huge downgrade in my opinion, the site runs slower when trying to load images, and when a profile has a blacklisted pfp, the blacklisted icon is massive. Just seems like a mess imo, since everything was fine before

sbex said:
I hate to be rude because I'm sure a lot of time and effort went into this update, but I can't really say anything good about it. The ui is a huge downgrade in my opinion, the site runs slower when trying to load images, and when a profile has a blacklisted pfp, the blacklisted icon is massive. Just seems like a mess imo, since everything was fine before

They did a discord fr

With every update to this site update to this site the more I notice how incompetent the owners are

+1, bad change. Make the current layout something opt-in in the settings if anyone actually wants larger thumbnails and make the old layout the default again.

Oh i literally thought it was just slow and broken, didn't even notice

Yeah, not at all a fan. Revert or add an opt-out, please.

Yeah this new mobile layout ain't it

The new mobile layout just ain't it

Really hoping down the line they just add an option to set the search layout to the way it was before. This current iteration looks absolutely abysmal.

This physically hurts my eyes. Like, unironically. Absolutely unusable.

As soon as I logged in and noticed the layout change, I knew there would be a thread to complain about it in. Please at least give us the option to use the previous layout, the new one makes the site much harder to use on mobile.

Genuinely not sure what the advantage is meant to be here. I get that this kind of thing takes a lot of work, but sometimes you put a lot of work into something and the end result is nonviable. That's fine, you learn by trying and doing. But if you fuck up cooking, you don't serve it, you toss it.
Thankful for the folks who can speak computer to get code to fix (and it is a fix) for the site.

But again, what is the supposed advantage here? Is the backend more efficient or something? Because the benefits are not visible to the user.

+1 to revert back to the old layout.

Nothing about the new isn't actively worse.
Fewer results per pages.
Less of the of the thumbnail is visible despite being larger.
The site itself is extremely unresponsive, possibly unrelated.
The setting to not use cropped thumbnails explicitly states it does nothing. :|

hey i'm on desktop, why does they layout look like it was designed for mobile?

forkeatermk10 said:
hey i'm on desktop, why does they layout look like it was designed for mobile?

That's what were trying to figure out.

Has anyone noticed the site has been slow since the change?

library~wanderer said:
Has anyone noticed the site has been slow since the change?

Yup, maybe not related but it's crawling in many places.

Is there a way to revert it to the previous state? It sucks now.

If there was a genuine internal reason this was necessary then fine, but developers cant make a change like this with *zero communication* and be surprised at how mad people are. The site looks and runs like shit, and until someone decides to explain something we have every right to be bitchy about it.

dafrog said:
If there was a genuine internal reason this was necessary then fine, but developers cant make a change like this with *zero communication* and be surprised at how mad people are. The site looks and runs like shit, and until someone decides to explain something we have every right to be bitchy about it.

would be nice if they had it in settings for like (beta style) and not regen thumbnails and see what the people think, instead of pulling a discord

New thumbnails look horrible and poorly scaled, the small size option doesn't fix them properly either.

Even the thumbnails in this thread are broken lol. Like the blacklisted icon you get when someone has a blocked PFP overlaps with the comment box lol.

I hope they revert these changes, they're a downgrade for sure.

stupidresident said:
Fewer results per pages.
Less of the of the thumbnail is visible despite being larger.
The setting to not use cropped thumbnails explicitly states it does nothing. :|

results per page has not changed, just per row.
you can have the thumbnail not cropped*.
the option in the user settings no longer functions, there's a button under the search bar on desktop where you can change this now.

*_{kinda, newly generated thumbs that would be very tall (<1:2) or very wide (>2:1) appear to be hard cropped in the actual thumbnail image file, unfortunately.}

+1 to disliking this change, thank you to everyone making CSS code to revert the changes. I think this change looks bad on desktop and mobile, and it's particularly irksome for me because I usually use incognito mode to view the site, and now in order to have things look nice and clean I need to log in every time. It's a mild frustration, and one that I hope gets undone soon.

There isn't too much I can say without rehashing points that have already been made, but here goes.

I'm used to my computer being slow (I'm at 80% memory usage on a good day), but having to wait several seconds to load a page, refresh something, or open a new tab gets old real fast. Also, for whatever reason, the new update's maxing out my disk. For example, it's at 2% usage as I'm typing this, but it skyrockets to 100% usage as soon as I do virtually anything on the site. I have a theory that it might be related to loading numerous larger images on every page, but I don't have any evidence to back that up, unfortunately.

Now, I'm not an expert on coding or web design by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't feel this was tested enough prior to launch. As other users have pointed out, this feels very akin to Discord's numerous recent changes, wherein people are upset, but stick around due to a lack of viable options. I can't help but feel that's what's going on here, and while the site usage may not dip much, the further alienation of its userbase cannot be sustainable. Discord can get away with it due to its massive size, but e6 doesn't have that luxury.

What I propose is this: make the larger thumbnails an optional thing. You can push it as the default, just leave the rest of us a way to turn it off. I know this site's capable of making good design choices (a good example being the Themes/Gestures page), but also having some beta testers (possibly Privileged members) for any updates would help iron out the bugs that are clearly prevalent in this update (and any future updates that may occur).

Weirdly for me the regular posts page isn't blurry but my favorites are horrendously pixellated. Either way, not a fan of the larger icons and the apparent toll they seem to be taking on the site's performance. Really I guess I just want to add my voice in for "please make this optional with easy-to-understand instructions."

Good lord, this new UI is a complete dumpster-fire and I would love to know what was being smoked/snorted/injected when it was designed.

pyrobomber593 said:
Good lord, this new UI is a complete dumpster-fire and I would love to know what was being smoked/snorted/injected when it was designed.

all of the above

I think I found a temp solution.

If you go to search settings and Adjust image crop to full, and change card size to small, it seems to go back to normal (kinda?).

Edit: works for desktop, not sure if mobile works

I will agree that this one should be reverted... why is it blurry, anyway? how did this happen?

When large companies like Discord or Reddit change the layout of their software I get it. I don't agree with it, but I understand the reasoning for it. A new layout makes the site feel fresh and keeps casual users interested, or maybe it's just to reassure the investors that the company is staying on top of things, maybe it's done to optimize the site for endless scrolling and user retention. But this, e621, is a furry porn website. Why? What possible reason is there to make the experience worse for users. I really don't get this one.

I agree with pretty much everyone in the thread and that most the UI updates are unnecessary and fail to accomplish what they try to achieve, and im not trying to say dont change anything. I think changes should be thought through and should be able to be reverted. I would write something better im tired.

I did make a tamper monkey user script that mostly returns the posts how they originally were (portrait webm's are broken... im tired... and new posts dont work right... ill make something better(also also its half ai half me fixing stupid stuff it tried to do so it is a mess))
https://github.com/gmant005/E621-Fix/blob/main/E6%20Better%20Posts-0.2.user.js

also feel free to Dmail me if there is anything that needs to be fixed or if you have any ideas.

but mods/ui people/anyone who can do anything I dont think broken mobile focused UI updates is what this site needs.

imthinkinarbys said:
Oh good, I like seeing fewer things when I'm trying to find what I want. You know, I always thing "there's just too many options".

Don't forget that you can't see the things well!
The blurriness and not seeing the full image? The bluriness seems to be for older images only, but what if we want to look back at older stuff?

Whichever way you cut it, this change is just... bad and kind of baffling.

Dropping by to register my complaint about mobile UIs in desktop mode.
Please revert this.

The size change is whatever, but cropping everything to a perfect square? I remember Weasyl got a lot of flak for forcing square thumbnails on everyone, and finally got recoded to use those fancy ones that dynamically resize to keep the rows even widths. Still wasn't great for tall images, but definitely an improvement. Also, it's weird that they would roll this out first before they let the new thumbnail generation happen? So now on top of everyone hating the redesign, the site is going to look like a blurry mess AND run slow for who knows how long. Hey, people in charge, are you OK? Is this an act of self destruction? Do we need to call a therapist?

flailingspade said:
When large companies like Discord or Reddit change the layout of their software I get it. I don't agree with it, but I understand the reasoning for it. A new layout makes the site feel fresh and keeps casual users interested, or maybe it's just to reassure the investors that the company is staying on top of things, maybe it's done to optimize the site for endless scrolling and user retention. But this, e621, is a furry porn website. Why? What possible reason is there to make the experience worse for users. I really don't get this one.

It also makes me question the meme that these sites have full-time UI people and they need to make pointless changes from time to time to convince their bosses not to fire them. But I don't think our sole coder even gets paid, and there's a list a mile long of features people have been actually wanting.

Maybe it's not capitalism's fault after all. Maybe the enshittification was inside us all along.

I’m quite puzzled by this. Did the dev team forget we already had this in settings > advance > disable cropping?
Now that setting does nothing. Also, while I’m glad we sort of have an option to make it uncropped under the search bar, but why not have the frame hug the image instead of keeping it square?

The new UI is bad and e621 should feel bad!

not sure what propose this ui change was for but it seems rather bad, and if the purpose was to make the site more mobile friendly, it has done very much the opposite.. this change should be reverted.

netchicken said:
I’m quite puzzled by this. Did the dev team forget we already had this in settings > advance > disable cropping?
Now that setting does nothing. Also, while I’m glad we sort of have an option to make it uncropped under the search bar, but why not have the frame hug the image instead of keeping it square?

I'm assuming it's the same reason several other things were moved off of the user settings into the themes menu, so people who aren't logged in can change it.

netchicken said:
dev team

Making a lot of assumptions here :P

The larger thumbnails don't even work right as they cut off all the edges of the images, don't show images with larger vertical/horizontal dimensions, and zoom in but remain extremely blurry.

It's a very very irritating change that had no reason to be changed.

dba_afish said:
I'm assuming it's the same reason several other things were moved off of the user settings into the themes menu, so people who aren't logged in can change it.

That’s fair, but why not remove it from there? Also, why not visible on mobile layout on phones?

On another topic, I’ve tried the site on several devices now and it seems cropping is inconsistent. Sometimes it crops, sometimes not fully and sometimes doesn’t. This only happens on my long vertical screen devices (phones), but thumbnails are consistently square on less elongated screens (like tablets and foldables).
Also, I’ve been having severe slowdowns on this site for a week or two now. Has the regeneration been running for so long or were those issue unrelated?

nin10dope said:
Making a lot of assumptions here :P

That was one assumption. :3

This new layout is ass! It's all blurry and grainy!

funkwolfie said:
not just you, also an issue for me

me three

daneasaur said:
The larger thumbnails don't even work right as they cut off all the edges of the images, don't show images with larger vertical/horizontal dimensions, and zoom in but remain extremely blurry.

It's a very very irritating change that had no reason to be changed.

Oh shit, I haven't seen your profile pic in comment/forum sections in over a decade

I would very much like this change to be an optional feature.

I genuinely thought the site was broken when I got on today, this new update just really isn't good. It's hard on the eyes and makes it harder to find what I'm looking for.

netchicken said:
Did the dev team forget we already had this in settings > advance > disable cropping?

Yes, actually. I forgot to remove it.
There isn't a dev team, not really. It's just me and a couple more volunteers.

I'll mirror both the theme and search options on the settings page at some point, but right now I'm more focused on fixing more noticeable bugs.

I much prefer the old one too.

I agree, this blows. 3 rows of equally sized image preveiws worked great this new layout is awful. I havent seen the new desktop layout but it would seem based on these comments that the new ui sucks on both desktop and mobile, please revert all around.

dba_afish said:
to have 3 thumbnails per row on mobile add the following to your user css:

@media (max-width: 50rem) {
section.posts-container { grid-template-columns: repeat(3, 1fr); }}

A God among men you are!

After setting crop:full, the new layout seems fine, I prefer the larger thumbnails.
Cropping by default is a cancer of gallery design.

Man, even the last one didn't seem this heavily leaning to one side.

Seriously, just don't make it the default and you should be fine to have that layout as an OPTION to change to. That said, if you're going to be doing cosmetic stuff, having a user-saved theme checklist seems kinda... logical. At least, more logical than whatever this was supposed to accomplish.

The sudden change was so bizarre that I had to come to the forum to find out what happened. Definitely not a fan

cinder said:
Yes, I agree.
I should have increased the thumbnail size by 1 pixel every day, to ease y'all into it.

Do you have any intention of reverting the ui changes?

How can I make my interface return to the original appearance?I have tried FunkWolfie's CSS code,Although there has been some improvement, it is still very poor

donovan_dmc said:
How people somehow leap from bad ui design to the site being hacked is a phenomenon that should be studied
If the site were hacked why would said hackers mess with the ui rather than taking data and leaving without a trace

"Why would hackers have fun"

Is there a CCS code that can restore the number of illustrations in a single line to its original quantity?

dba_afish said:
to have 3 thumbnails per row on mobile add the following to your user css:

@media (max-width: 50rem) {
section.posts-container { grid-template-columns: repeat(3, 1fr); }}

Would you happen to have a way to make posts align top instead of bottom? Something still felt off and I had a cached version of the old layout, and posts being aligned bottom was what was throwing me off

Love the new design, amazing work! The previous one was really insufficient for 4k display.

kubihazusaikou said:
Is there a CCS code that can restore the number of illustrations in a single line to its original quantity?

here's the CSS for it to be 3 wide on mobile:

@media (max-width: 50rem) {
section.posts-container { grid-template-columns: repeat(3, 1fr); }}

+1, theres not much i can say because everyone has already echoed my complaints. i wanted some option for larger thumbnails but this was implemented really poorly. also really not a fan of the black bars on everything

I literally thought the site was broken when I first saw this

Yeah, it looks worse than the original layout imo

collarslut said:
Would you happen to have a way to make posts align top instead of bottom? Something still felt off and I had a cached version of the old layout, and posts being aligned bottom was what was throwing me off

.posts-container img { height: fit-content; }
.posts-container { align-items: end; }

I did this for myself, I think I prefer them to be aligned at the bottom so that all the infobars are aligned. you could change align-items from end to start and see how that looks.

The new UI layout somehow gives me actual eye pain and eye strain. How is that even possible.

dba_afish said:

.posts-container img { height: fit-content; }
.posts-container { align-items: end; }

I did this for myself, I think I prefer them to be aligned at the bottom so that all the infobars are aligned. you could change align-items from end to start and see how that looks.

Got it, thank you

Why are all the thumbnails now in 144p?

The higher quality samples are a slight issue for people who sometimes have to deal with abysmal quality internet like me.

I feel that one of the main problems is that the new layout causes Visual Overload, and makes it hard to even look at, you cant focus on any one thing because it appears as one large blob, and if you try to, it hurts your eyes, or you just cant focus on it.

jadenone said:
Why are all the thumbnails now in 144p?

well, technically they _used_ to be 144p (actually a max of 150px in either direction, but close enough). the diffrence is they're now cropped by default, so the old thumbnails for tall/wide images are all mega zoomed in showing like <1/3rd of the already extremely limited pixels. new thumbnails are up to 512x and look slightly better all cropped like that.

you can disable the cropping by clicking the gear button under the post search bar in desktop view.