dba_afish said:
countershade_breasts

That would be where the breasts themselves have two different colors that create a shading pattern. If the breasts as a whole are a single color, which is distinct from the rest of the torso, that's not countershade breasts (or necessarily countershading, depending on the overall pattern for countershade_torso).

For post #5550618 specifically, perhaps countershade_chest would be most applicable, since the white coloring also goes to the upper chest and neck, and a little bit underneath the breasts. The breasts contribute to the upper torso having a countershade pattern, but since the breasts themselves are wholly white, there's no countershading on the breasts themselves (this is part of why I think these more specific countershade_<bodypart> tags need to be aliased away; they're often misused to mean <bodypart> is a separate flat color, perhaps contributing to the countershading of what they're part of, but doesn't itself have a countershade pattern).

watsit said:
That would be where the breasts have two different colors that create a shading pattern. If the breasts as a whole are a single color, which is distinct from the rest of the torso, that's not countershade breasts (or necessarily countershading, depending on the overall pattern for countershade_torso).

Please read that tag's wiki before stating what it's for. Because what you said is completely incorrect.

countershade_breasts: When a character's breasts are a different color from the rest of the main color(s) on a character's body.

nin10dope said:
Please read that tag's wiki before stating what it's for. Because what you said is completely incorrect.

The countershade_breasts wiki is wrong if it says that, since that's not what countershading is. Read the wiki for countershading:

a region of a body part is covered by a lighter / darker color that contrasts with the main body color.

See also wikipedia:

Countershading, or Thayer's law, is a method of camouflage in which an animal's coloration is darker on the top or upper side and lighter on the underside of the body.

The breasts being their own solid color would not be countershade breasts, as that's not a countershade pattern. They can contribute to a countershade chest/torso, but don't themselves have a countershade pattern. Compare to countershade_torso, which doesn't mean when the torso is it's own solid color different from everything else, but when the torso has a countershade pattern. Again, this is why I think these more specific countershade_<bodypart> tags need to go away since they misunderstand countershading and are misused to mean something different.

It also wouldn't be a good idea to abuse the term "countershade_x" to mean "x is a different color" since countershading, as its name implies, is a shading pattern, creating a distinction between light and dark areas. A bright red body with bright green breasts wouldn't be any form of countershading as they'd be of equal brightness, it would simply be a distinct color. Finding or creating tags for "x specifically is a different color from the surrounding body" would be a better endeavor.

watsit said:
The countershade_breasts wiki is wrong if it says that, since that's not what countershading is. Read the wiki for countershading:
See also wikipedia:
The breasts being their own solid color would not be countershade breasts, as that's not a countershade pattern. They can contribute to a countershade chest/torso, but don't themselves have a countershade pattern. Compare to countershade_torso, which doesn't mean when the torso is it's own solid color different from everything else, but when the torso has a countershade pattern. Again, this is why I think these more specific countershade_<bodypart> tags need to go away since they misunderstand countershading and are misused to mean something different.

It also wouldn't be a good idea to abuse the term "countershade_x" to mean "x is a different color" since countershading, as its name implies, is a shading pattern, creating a distinction between light and dark areas. A bright red body with bright green breasts wouldn't be any form of countershading as they'd be of equal brightness, it would simply be a distinct color. Finding or creating tags for "x specifically is a different color from the surrounding body" would be a better endeavor.

You can make a topic about your objections with the countershading tags, but until the tags wikis reflect that, don't spread misinformation that directly contradicts them. This topic is not the place to debate animal kingdom ideas. The tag does not mention pattern at all. It says a lighter or darker color, including the wiki you quoted just now, which the image contains.

watsit said:
The countershade_breasts wiki is wrong if it says that, since that's not what countershading is. Read the wiki for countershading:
See also wikipedia:
The breasts being their own solid color would not be countershade breasts, as that's not a countershade pattern. They can contribute to a countershade chest/torso, but don't themselves have a countershade pattern. Compare to countershade_torso, which doesn't mean when the torso is it's own solid color different from everything else, but when the torso has a countershade pattern. Again, this is why I think these more specific countershade_<bodypart> tags need to go away since they misunderstand countershading and are misused to mean something different.

It also wouldn't be a good idea to abuse the term "countershade_x" to mean "x is a different color" since countershading, as its name implies, is a shading pattern, creating a distinction between light and dark areas. A bright red body with bright green breasts wouldn't be any form of countershading as they'd be of equal brightness, it would simply be a distinct color. Finding or creating tags for "x specifically is a different color from the surrounding body" would be a better endeavor.

tag wikis describe a tag's use. if the description on the wiki is consistent with the tags use, it's not wrong. maybe the tag's name is misleading, but that'd be an issue for another thread.

nin10dope said:
You can make a topic about your objections with the countershading tags, but until the tags wikis reflect that, don't spread misinformation that directly contradicts them.

dba_afish said:
tag wikis describe a tag's use. if the description on the wiki is consistent with the tags use, it's not wrong. maybe the tag's name is misleading, but that'd be an issue for another thread.

The tag wiki is not gospel. countershade_breasts implies countershading, so tagging countershade_breasts on posts that just mean 'breasts are a different color' causes the post to be mistagged with countershading. It is directly relevant to the question posed in this thread of what to tag when breasts are a different color, as tagging countershade_breasts for that will cause mistags regardless of what its wiki says, so shouldn't be done. Don't worry, I'll be making a thread to discuss how to handle this issue, but it's best to not leave people with inaccurate information that leads to mistags (especially when the issue eventually gets fixed and they don't see the corrections, as they continue doing as they were previously advised).

watsit said:
The tag wiki is not gospel. countershade_breasts implies countershading, so tagging countershade_breasts on posts that just mean 'breasts are a different color' causes the post to be mistagged with countershading. It is directly relevant to the question posed in this thread of what to tag when breasts are a different color, as tagging countershade_breasts for that will cause mistags regardless of what its wiki says, so shouldn't be done. Don't worry, I'll be making a thread to discuss how to handle this issue, but it's best to not leave people with inaccurate information that leads to mistags (especially when the issue eventually gets fixed and they don't see the corrections, as they continue doing as they were previously advised).

What part of this image tells you that countershading, implied by countershade_breasts, is a mistag? When you've said yourself that the definition of countershading is

a region of a body part is covered by a lighter / darker color that contrasts with the main body color.

post #5550618
You're telling me that isn't a lighter color that contrasts the main body color?

nin10dope said:
What part of this image tells you that countershading, implied by countershade_breasts, is a mistag?

I didn't say that particular image would be mistagged with countershading, but images where the breasts are the same brightness and just a different color, which would inevitably happen if applied to various possible color combinations where the breasts are different from the surrounding body.

As it is, it seems the current use of countershade_breasts isn't even aligned with its wiki.

When a character's breasts are a different color from the rest of the main color(s) on a character's body.

But the vast majority have breasts that are the same color as the front of the main body, basically whenever countershade_torso is applicable, making it little different than "countershade_torso for characters with breasts". The number of uses where the breasts are a distinct color from the body is very minimal (some, not all, images of this character, for example), there a few where the main body is covered so you can't see if the breasts are different (e.g. post #3900227) and even the breasts themselves are largely covered along with the body (e.g. post #3887312).

So it's not even useful for when breasts are a separate color from the rest of the body. There are a few instances of actual countershade breasts (e.g. post #4497006 post #5401729), which are impossible to search for given all the other posts with that tag.

watsit said:

Then go make your own topic instead of hijacking this one. The user wanted to know what tag would describe images that are just like that one, hence why they linked it.

nin10dope said:
Then go make your own topic instead of hijacking this one. The user wanted to know what tag would describe images that are just like that one, hence why they linked it.

As I said, I will. It's going to take a little bit for me to formulate my thoughts and suggestions in a proper post. In the mean time, I was responding to the assertion that it was fine to use according to its wiki when someone asked what to use for breasts colored differently from the body.

Is there any tag to replace dominant_femboy?

It now just forces you to use the regular femboy tag but... I want to find content with dominant femboy. How do you do that without the dominant_femboy tag?

nin10dope said:
You're likely using the wrong word to describe the condition then. Pent_up is another way of saying that someone is sexually repressed.

No, it isn't. pent_up is a physical symptom of abstinence. Sexual repression is a psychological motivation for abstinence.

Maybe I'll make a set for it. It's probably hard to make it work with TWYS...

paydaywolf said:
Is there any tag to replace dominant_femboy?

It now just forces you to use the regular femboy tag but... I want to find content with dominant femboy. How do you do that without the dominant_femboy tag?

There's josou_seme. I remembered it being mentioned here, but I had to look it up because I forgot what it was called. It's not nearly as easy to remember as dominant_femboy, but it's the best I could find.

beholding said:
No, it isn't. pent_up is a physical symptom of abstinence. Sexual repression is a psychological motivation for abstinence.

Maybe I'll make a set for it. It's probably hard to make it work with TWYS...

My b, someone that is doing repression and someone who is repressed have very slight differences in usage.

munchmallow-frosty said:
There's josou_seme. I remembered it being mentioned here, but I had to look it up because I forgot what it was called. It's not nearly as easy to remember as dominant_femboy, but it's the best I could find.

That is the correct tag, as it means the exact same thing in practical usage.

nin10dope said:
That is the correct tag, as it means the exact same thing in practical usage.

It makes me curious as to why dominant_femboy was aliased away, since the only difference is the fact that josou_seme is harder to remember.

munchmallow-frosty said:
It makes me curious as to why dominant_femboy was aliased away, since the only difference is the fact that josou_seme is harder to remember.

I think it was a desire to relegate dominant prefixes to more defining subjects like gender

nin10dope said:
I think it was a desire to relegate dominant prefixes to more defining subjects like gender

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!

munchmallow-frosty said:
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!

topic #46023
You can show your support for its reintegration there if you want to xP
I tried searching dominant_femboy in the Titles field for Forum searches and found no such alias request, meaning it was done in a BUR or silently by an admin

Is there a tag for naive males thinking ejaculate is pee? I encountered a lot of examples while cleaning up first orgasm, so I think it's a specific enough kink to be distinct from just naive.

Is there a tag for a bunch of characters in a circle? Maybe something akin to the take_your_pick tag but with 3+ characters? Doesn't need to be lewd though.

beholding said:
Is there a tag for naive males thinking ejaculate is pee? I encountered a lot of examples while cleaning up first orgasm, so I think it's a specific enough kink to be distinct from just naive.

inexperienced is the only other related tag that's listed. There's none that start with confusing.

beauvoirferril0 said:
Is there a tag for a bunch of characters in a circle? Maybe something akin to the take_your_pick tag but with 3+ characters? Doesn't need to be lewd though.

circle_formation

Is there a tag for when someone has long hair but only the end of it is tied, like this?

post #5453704

Doesn't seem like "ponytail" is quite right.

errorist said:
Is there a tag for when someone has long hair but only the end of it is tied, like this?

post #5453704

Doesn't seem like "ponytail" is quite right.

The only thing I can find to describe it is low ponytail

nin10dope said:
inexperienced is the only other related tag that's listed. There's none that start with confusing.

Hm. I wonder if there's a place for a more general "ignorant of sexual functions" tag, or if I should just make a tag for this scenario specifically. Problem is, I'm not sure what to call it.

beholding said:
Hm. I wonder if there's a place for a more general "ignorant of sexual functions" tag, or if I should just make a tag for this scenario specifically. Problem is, I'm not sure what to call it.

Honestly naive is suitable, that scenario is just a really easy way to convey it

Surely we have a more succinct tag for risk_of_being_caught?

beholding said:
Surely we have a more succinct tag for risk_of_being_caught?

risky_nudity risky_sex risk_of_discovery etc
They are more contextual

A tag for engagement farming.
You know the ones, a character is posing or doing something sexy and a list of Heart numbers that will progressively increase the lewdness of the character. Sometimes also has Retweet requirements too.
I'd like to just call it engagement_farming because that's literally what it is. But people might find that derogatory so you could swap farming with bait or something else entirely

nin10dope said:
A tag for engagement farming.
You know the ones, a character is posing or doing something sexy and a list of Heart numbers that will progressively increase the lewdness of the character. Sometimes also has Retweet requirements too.
I'd like to just call it engagement_farming because that's literally what it is. But people might find that derogatory so you could swap farming with bait or something else entirely

I was going to say we already have a tag for this, but actually we have THREE: strip game, strip meme and twitter strip poll. None of which seem like good names for it since (A) it often involves more than stripping, (B) it's not just on Twitter anymore (and officially there's no such thing as Twitter anyway), and (C) calling it a "game" or a "meme" isn't descriptive enough. I like "engagement farming" honestly, cynical as it may seem.

kamimatsu said:
What about destroyed landscapes? I've tried wasteland, but I'm not just talking about uninhabitable wastes. I specifically mean a previously-inhabited location, such as a village or city, that has been destroyed, be it from razing, nuclear warfare, or other methods that would also destroy the landscape.

Ruins maybe a good suggestion?

Add (general:Piloerection) as a tag for when characters have their fur/skin stand on end and or have jolted outlines. Piroerection is the scientific term for goosebumbs, not to be confused with the book series. I also don't know of if there is tag for animation smear/smear frames as that basically is the same effect though different function perhaps that should be an implied meta tag.
Example posts:
https://e621.net/posts/#5192282
https://e621.net/posts/#5644717
https://e621.net/posts/#4515372
https://e621.net/posts/#5388168

tennen said:
Add (general:Piloerection) as a tag for when characters have their fur/skin stand on end and or have jolted outlines. Piroerection is the scientific term for goosebumbs, not to be confused with the book series. I also don't know of if there is tag for animation smear/smear frames as that basically is the same effect though different function perhaps that should be an implied meta tag.
Example posts:
https://e621.net/posts/#5192282
https://e621.net/posts/#5644717
https://e621.net/posts/#4515372
https://e621.net/posts/#5388168

That's not how you share/link posts
That hashtag in the url makes it just go to Posts most recent page

Also for the fur standing up/on end etc is already called bristled_fur
It's drastically underused but that is the common term