Topic: The UK age verification law (The Online Safety Act) is now in full effect.

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Adg34

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freemys0ul said:
It's hit me on Multiple sites, Reddit (Age Verification), Google (Age Verification), E-Hentai (Straight Blocked), Discord (Age Verification). The wording is so vague steam is affected by it.

Nothing on E6 still, twitter yup and discords verification system is so difficult to use lol

danneth said:
I can't afford a vpn, and even if I could, it sounds like such a hassle to use something that i've been using for a large majority of my life.

Use TOR, it's free and actually better solution in this case.

faucet said:
Something is already in the works for the EU - forum #452321.

EU seems to be doing it in the right way.

frinter said:
Are older accounts exempt from age verification? I still can see NSFW just fine.

Verification Using Existing Highly Reliable Signals

  • Account creation date: If an account was created in 2012 or earlier.

The official word, as far as general site staff have been informed, is that we will continue operating normally and remain available in the UK.

Anything else should probably be read as opinion and speculation.

twistedlogik said:
I agree this government is a clusterfuck, but claiming we're living in a "facist dictatorship" is a bit much.

Fascist dictatorships would find being compared to the UK Government an insult.

It's not a real democracy. The subjects can do nothing that matters to hold their rulers accountable. People demand an inquiry into the mass rape and grooming of little girls? The government kills that inquiry with a smile, or lets it happen knowing nothing will come of it because everyone already knows the truth about the UK Government.

We have an unelected Head of State (whose family loves Epstein Island), we have an unelected Upper Chamber (House of Lords), we have no Constitution, we have the First-Past-the-Post (FPTP) Electoral System where the candidate with the most votes in a constituency wins regardless of whether they have a majority, UK Media is entirely controlled by the government and the wealthy few, there is no proportional representation, and the royals can declare war and do whatever the fuck they want without needing parliamentary approval, even though the parliament is entirely made of Epstein Islander rich fucks who might as well be foreign for how little they have in common with the working class of the country. Oh, and your local governments have no power to overrule the demands of centralized authority.

What's wrong with the FPTP system?
It leads to “wasted votes” where many ballots don’t affect the outcome.
It gives large majorities in Parliament to parties with only a minority of the national vote.
And it disproportionately benefits larger parties and marginalizes smaller ones, limiting pluralism.

No matter how hard radical reformers campaign, risking their lives and freedom to do so under a system that loves to put political prisoners in torture gulags and make examples of them, the system will never peacefully surrender its power.

I was thinking about some consequences of age verification outside privacy concerns or ideology. Among them, people will just pirate video games and movies more often for a very simple reason: You can afford it, it's right there, but the site is asking you to verify your age. So you pirate it instead because that way you can avoid the age verification process, not because you are a minor, but because you are an adult with their own reasons to not want to go through that process. Whatever the reason is, it does not matter in the end, it will make you pirate content because you cannot pay for it without verifying your age.

Of course, that's not what has me all uneasy, but that age verification might be another temperature increase to the water in the boiling frog metaphor. If we don't stop this now, we might need some sort of "Internet License" in the future. I'll leave to your imagination what that might be and what that would be needed for.

yiffmaniac said:
EU seems to be doing it in the right way.

They are just raising the temperature slower, in my opinion.

adg34 said:
Nothing on E6 still, twitter yup and discords verification system is so difficult to use lol

funny enough these age verification seem to be in name only. apparently can be fooled by the simplest things and people found ways to be verified without actually providing anything asked for. wont go into details cause thats treading on no so solid ground.

redphoenix42 said:
Fascist dictatorships would find being compared to the UK Government an insult.

It's not a real democracy. The subjects can do nothing that matters to hold their rulers accountable. People demand an inquiry into the mass rape and grooming of little girls? The government kills that inquiry with a smile, or lets it happen knowing nothing will come of it because everyone already knows the truth about the UK Government.

We have an unelected Head of State (whose family loves Epstein Island), we have an unelected Upper Chamber (House of Lords), we have no Constitution, we have the First-Past-the-Post (FPTP) Electoral System where the candidate with the most votes in a constituency wins regardless of whether they have a majority, UK Media is entirely controlled by the government and the wealthy few, there is no proportional representation, and the royals can declare war and do whatever the fuck they want without needing parliamentary approval, even though the parliament is entirely made of Epstein Islander rich fucks who might as well be foreign for how little they have in common with the working class of the country. Oh, and your local governments have no power to overrule the demands of centralized authority.

What's wrong with the FPTP system?
It leads to “wasted votes” where many ballots don’t affect the outcome.
It gives large majorities in Parliament to parties with only a minority of the national vote.
And it disproportionately benefits larger parties and marginalizes smaller ones, limiting pluralism.

No matter how hard radical reformers campaign, risking their lives and freedom to do so under a system that loves to put political prisoners in torture gulags and make examples of them, the system will never peacefully surrender its power.

Preach. Every single time I look over at the UK, everything is worse by a noticeable margin. The USA is heading down that path, but you guys (and the rest of Europe) are way, way further down it.

the UK used to rule the world and now they can't even goon... oh how the mighty have fallen...

sanity_dance said:
Preach. Every single time I look over at the UK, everything is worse by a noticeable margin. The USA is heading down that path, but you guys (and the rest of Europe) are way, way further down it.

I don't want this to devolve, so I'll just say switching "UK" for "US" & replacing "unelected Head of State", "Upper Chamber (House of Lords)" & "Parliment" with equivalents is all you'd need to convince me that post was talking about the US; it really doesn't sound that different to what people are saying here, especially over the past week or so. I'll also remind you Arizona (where e6 is hosted) passed comparable legislation relatively recently, so...

Incredible... The UK government is now REPEALING the recently passed Online Safety Act over a parliamentary petition signed by OVER 300,000 GOONER constituents! Great work to all the signers🫡

oneohthrix said:
Incredible... The UK government is now REPEALING the recently passed Online Safety Act over a parliamentary petition signed by OVER 300,000 GOONER constituents! Great work to all the signers🫡

Where did they say they are going to repeal the Act?

👑 Government responded

This response was given on 28 July 2025

" The Government is working with Ofcom to ensure that online in-scope services are subject to robust but proportionate regulation through the effective implementation of the Online Safety Act 2023.

Read the response in full

I would like to thank all those who signed the petition. It is right that the regulatory regime for in scope online services takes a proportionate approach, balancing the protection of users from online harm with the ability for low-risk services to operate effectively and provide benefits to users.

The Government has no plans to repeal the Online Safety Act, and is working closely with Ofcom to implement the Act as quickly and effectively as possible to enable UK users to benefit from its protections.

Proportionality is a core principle of the Act and is in-built into its duties. As regulator for the online safety regime, Ofcom must consider the size and risk level of different types and kinds of services when recommending steps providers can take to comply with requirements. Duties in the Communications Act 2003 require Ofcom to act with proportionality and target action only where it is needed.

Some duties apply to all user-to-user and search services in scope of the Act. This includes risk assessments, including determining if children are likely to access the service and, if so, assessing the risks of harm to children. While many services carry low risks of harm, the risk assessment duties are key to ensuring that risky services of all sizes do not slip through the net of regulation. For example, the Government is very concerned about small platforms that host harmful content, such as forums dedicated to encouraging suicide or self-harm. Exempting small services from the Act would mean that services like these forums would not be subject to the Act’s enforcement powers. Even forums that might seem harmless carry potential risks, such as where adults come into contact with child users.

Once providers have carried out their duties to conduct risk assessments, they must protect the users of their service from the identified risks of harm. Ofcom’s illegal content Codes of Practice set out recommended measures to help providers comply with these obligations, measures that are tailored in relation to both size and risk. If a provider’s risk assessment accurately determines that the risks faced by users are low across all harms, Ofcom’s Codes specify that they only need some basic measures, including:

• easy-to-find, understandable terms and conditions;
• a complaints tool that allows users to report illegal material when they see it, backed up by a process to deal with those complaints;
• the ability to review content and take it down if it is illegal (or breaches their terms of service);
• a specific individual responsible for compliance, who Ofcom can contact if needed.

Where a children's access assessment indicates a platform is likely to be accessed by children, a subsequent risk assessment must be conducted to identify measures for mitigating risks. Like the Codes of Practice on illegal content, Ofcom’s recently issued child safety Codes also tailor recommendations based on risk level. For example, highly effective age assurance is recommended for services likely accessed by children that do not already prohibit and remove harmful content such as pornography and suicide promotion. Providers of services likely to be accessed by UK children were required to complete their assessment, which Ofcom may request, by 24 July.

On 8 July, Ofcom’s CEO wrote to the Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology noting Ofcom’s responsibility for regulating a wide range of highly diverse services, including those run by businesses, but also charities, community and voluntary groups, individuals, and many services that have not been regulated before.

The letter notes that the Act’s aim is not to penalise small, low-risk services trying to comply in good faith. Ofcom – and the Government – recognise that many small services are dynamic small businesses supporting innovation and offer significant value to their communities. Ofcom will take a sensible approach to enforcement with smaller services that present low risk to UK users, only taking action where it is proportionate and appropriate, and will focus on cases where the risk and impact of harm is highest.

Ofcom has developed an extensive programme of work designed to support a smoother journey to compliance, particularly for smaller firms. This has been underpinned by interviews, workshops and research with a diverse range of online services to ensure the tools meet the needs of different types of services. Ofcom’s letter notes its ‘guide for services’ guidance and tools hub, and its participation in events run by other organisations and networks including those for people running small services, as well as its commitment to review and improve materials and tools to help support services to create a safer life online.

The Government will continue to work with Ofcom towards the full implementation of the Online Safety Act 2023, including monitoring proportionate implementation.

Department for Science, Innovation and Technology

thegreatwolfgang said:
Where did they say they are going to repeal the Act?

Oh my God... So the petition did nothing at all...

legislators aren't appealing to an online petition... nah im gonna b sick...

oneohthrix said:
Oh my God... So the petition did nothing at all...

legislators aren't appealing to an online petition... nah im gonna b sick...

Parliament still has to debate it, there'll be a date within 3 days.

mklxiv said:
Parliament still has to debate it, there'll be a date within 3 days.

Look at the wording of the petition.

"Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate"

It was considered for debate. They're not mandated to debate😭. It's over bro

This will only amplify violence and cause government officials to be prime target number for murder or violence.

All I gotta say is a little quote from my friend, "Welcome to Hell, Hallelujah"

oneohthrix said:
Look at the wording of the petition.

"Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate"

It was considered for debate. They're not mandated to debate😭. It's over bro

Gotta leave that defeatist attitude at the door, there are ways around the checks and when those get shut down someone will make new ones. Trying to sanitize the internet is impossible for long.

Here's a bit of hope for us all.
Apple AND Wikipedia are suing the UK government.
Keep in mind, these are MASSIVE companies.
Bro when the megacorpos pull a haymaker out of nowhere.
2025 has been insane.

oneohthrix said:
It's over bro

Reminder: in recent history many countries imposed varied levels of control over their people. Unlike say, China or (as of now nonexistent officially) USSR, Western countries give more allowance for freedom of speech. Use it. Demand change instead of asking. Petitions alone have about as much influence as painting zebra crossing on a highway. Both are only a suggestion to consider.

theunstickyone said:
Here's a bit of hope for us all.
Apple AND Wikipedia are suing the UK government.
Keep in mind, these are MASSIVE companies.

This is unexpected.
Wikimedia Foundation is massive in reach, not funds but Apple has enough to go on for years if needed (in March 2025 had approx. 48B cash on hand as per Macrotrends stats).

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aacafah said:
I don't want this to devolve, so I'll just say switching "UK" for "US" & replacing "unelected Head of State", "Upper Chamber (House of Lords)" & "Parliment" with equivalents is all you'd need to convince me that post was talking about the US; it really doesn't sound that different to what people are saying here, especially over the past week or so. I'll also remind you Arizona (where e6 is hosted) passed comparable legislation relatively recently, so...

You could convince me that post is talking about Mexico by switching "UK" for "Mexico", replacing the aforementioned terms with equivalents, and excluding the Epstein island and FPTP stuff.

oneohthrix said:
Look at the wording of the petition.

"Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate"

It was considered for debate. They're not mandated to debate😭. It's over bro

they havent responded about the debate yet. iirc from looking it up they have to respond. and frankly if the petetion keeps growing they'll have keep responding for months on end. and public hate of this is growing more and more. Its far from over.

Especially since opposition leaders which seem to have the best chance of winning next election from what Im reading are vowing to repeal it...and since in UK 16 year olds can vote now this is gonna be a major thing.

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radiancemutt said:
Paid for a 11.99 a month VPN in advance, i really haven't got long left of freedom once this act is in full effect. If parents would monitor and parent their kids, this would not be happening.

For $12/month, I could rent an entire VPS with plenty of storage. XD

wildlord said:
Amazing how stuff like this flies under the radar. I haven't seen any info on it on reddit either. To me the biggest itch is how personal data would be handled. I think I trust EU more than US or UK gouverment, but I did not expect they had a beta version on GitHub?
Anyway, what the hell is going in the past years? Why there are attempts of more strict age regulation now and why they didn't do it 10 or 15 years ago?...

Weaponized ignorance and distractitron. We've been working very very hard to sabotage critical thinking and analysis, while feeding as many people as possible conspiracy theories and astroturfing.
It was tried before but now you have a lot more effective propaganda.

An actually interesting breakdown of the numbers is here, linked from here. Basically, it's like some pendulum on any given specific issues. Censorship in general for example. We're building out all the infrastructure to make it far easier to shut things down. The next step is to require verification of ALL regions, or a site gets banned in a given jurisdiction. It is obvious, given the situation mentioned in the other top (requiring censorship even if not paying with *insert network name*). On the flip side, it's getting easier and easier to just bypass all this bullshit. >:)

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Just a heads up:
1. Banning all VPN services in the UK is being discussed now by the politicians.
2. The law has clearly no intent on regulating any kind of content viewed by children, considering the fact that children could bypass it on the first day, but inconvenient political content was instantly removed for adults

And please dont be naive about this coming to the EU and everywhere else and then not affecting this site or for that matter all sites.
Companies, ISPs, banks, payment processors are already voluntarily changing their ToS and practices to suit these laws.
Welcome to the EUSSR. You will say only what you are allowed to say, otherwise you aint gonna have access to money and the cops will knock on your door.

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labyrias2 said:
Just a heads up:
1. Banning all VPN services in the UK is being discussed now by the politicians.
2. The law has clearly no intent on regulating any kind of content viewed by children, considering the fact that children could bypass it on the first day, but inconvenient political content was instantly removed for adults

And please dont be naive about this coming to the EU and everywhere else and then not affecting this site or for that matter all sites.
Companies, ISPs, banks, payment processors are already voluntarily changing their ToS and practices to suit these laws.
Welcome to the EUSSR. You will say only what you are allowed to say, otherwise you aint gonna have access to money and the cops will knock on your door.

Ah, kind of ninja'd some of my points I guess? Yeah, expect tactics to try to attack the countermeasures we are using. I mean, it's not actually possible for someone like that to not be a total wanker, to borrow a word from the Brits. Or a little shit, in US parlance. Like Mr. Crangle. :P

labyrias2 said:
Just a heads up:
1. Banning all VPN services in the UK is being discussed now by the politicians.

no they are not. that was a knee jerk reaction to a article without fully reading it and a sensationalized title getting far too wide spread. What they are actually doing is studying the impact VPNs have with this bill in place and get the results of the study in a years time. and the person requesting the study and lead on this sort of thing specifically stated afterwards they will never ban VPNs.

They may try to get some sort of backdoor thing in it or something though.

That being said, Im getting tired of all these knee jerk sky is falling reactions getting so wide spread. Dont get me wrong there is a bunch to worry about and stuff should be done about it. But misinformation and clickbaity titles keep making things a hundred times worse than they are and there is no use in panicking.

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We still have E621, I don't need anything else bro. We got the E621 forums for social media, the posts for art, all we need is a UK Category to reside in and build homes.

There's no way they'll back down or understand the many, glaring flaws with the Act in the coming debate, they're too up their own arses.

At least the parliamentary petition is soon to make it onto the website's wikipedia page for the few that broke half a million. It has 6 months to run, too.

Looking forward to this month's Sir Swag video covering the world news...

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...you ever think someone is gonna get sick of this shit and shoot and kill several officials? I hope not but... Human nature....

I bring some good news.
There was an Urgency Motion in Australia that aimed to block normalized forced online identification and mass surveillance of internet users—disguised as child protection.
IT PASSED IN THE SENATE.
38 YES, 25 NO

Edit: ...the vote shifted. Sorry, y'all. I was wrong.

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theunstickyone said:
I bring some good news.
There was an Urgency Motion in Australia that aimed to block normalized forced online identification and mass surveillance of internet users—disguised as child protection.
IT PASSED IN THE SENATE.
38 YES, 25 NO

Really? That's awesome. It goes to show you that some find the idea of internet surveillance to be assine.

thegreatwolfgang said:
Maybe take a moment off the internet if all you're going to post about is the thinly-veiled threat that someone is going to get hurt from this.

Well, it's not a threat, it's a warning. Many of us here are thinking of the possibility that something like this might happen, even if we would never do it nor want others to do it. Hell, I even thought about it one night, then it happened next morning. Did I really wish it happened? Not really, I don't think they deserve death, but someone else apparently did.

With all the insanity brought to us by algorithm-driven ragebait during lockdown, it's just gonna happen.

theunstickyone said:
I bring some good news.
There was an Urgency Motion in Australia that aimed to block normalized forced online identification and mass surveillance of internet users—disguised as child protection.
IT PASSED IN THE SENATE.
38 YES, 25 NO

Edit: ...the vote shifted. Sorry, y'all. I was wrong.

Im looking this up and Im not seeing anywhere where the vote shifted? in fact latest info Im finding on this is positive. while the esaftey commissioner avoided personal inquiry the vote to block this is still on and a motion to repeal is now allowed into the works.

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theunstickyone said:
https://x.com/ausvstheagenda/status/1950739667080593428
Here.

looked into it, its just the commishioner thats avoiding personal scrutiny, the bill itself is still getting scrutinized. what was going on today is just a attempt at a inquiry of her personal role, apparently. so all the vote in your link was basically the senate going, when taking into account the previous vote "yeah we know she overstepped her bounds but lets not air out her dirty laundry and focus on the bill" so far.

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