Tag implication: Slave -> Slavery

reason: Slave implies Slavery

A slave is part of slavery

TheHuskyK9 said:
A slave is part of slavery

yep c:

Conker said:
reason: Slave implies Slavery

Did you mean implication, Conker?

corgi_bread said:
Did you mean implication, Conker?

Yeah, sorry about that. I made this thread when I was tired, and I tend to get the two mixed up when I'm sleepy...

bump? :v

bringing this up in here because of the topic.

I've noticed some posts with both 'slave' and 'slavery' on them, where to my mind - and the wiki definition - they don't really fit.

here are a few:

post #376890 - solo bondage, crossdressing
- none of the trappings of slavery

post #376880 - free catgirls aren't slaves (yet)...

post #376745 - male, solo - true, he's wearing a collar, but *really*?

leo_nine said:
I've noticed some posts with both 'slave' and 'slavery' on them, where to my mind - and the wiki definition - they don't really fit. here are a few:
post #376890 - solo bondage, crossdressing
- none of the trappings of slavery

post #376880 - free catgirls aren't slaves (yet)...

post #376745 - male, solo - true, he's wearing a collar, but *really*?

Every image you linked has a collar in it, collars on anything thats not an animal implies whatever wearing it is owned by someone else, even the 2nd link with the catgirls one of them is wearing a collar like that.

Conker said:
Every image you linked has a collar in it, collars on anything thats not an animal implies whatever wearing it is owned by someone else, even the 2nd link with the catgirls one of them is wearing a collar like that.

That's a sweeping definition if ever I heard one.

It makes no mention of fashion, or other, non-slavery power dynamics, nor accounts for the visibility (or otherwise) of any other indication that any characters involved are actually slaves.

leo_nine said:
That's a sweeping definition if ever I heard one.

It makes no mention of fashion, or other, non-slavery power dynamics, nor accounts for the visibility (or otherwise) of any other indication that any characters involved are actually slaves.

The wiki for slave mentions this about collars and branding marks even, the reason the slavery wiki wasnt that detailed was because I didnt want to copy the other wiki down to every word. So I had a link word to slave wiki. I wrote them both, but if you wish to improve the wikis by adding info on feel free to.

Conker said:
The wiki for slave mentions this about collars and branding marks even, the reason the slavery wiki wasnt that detailed was because I didnt want to copy the other wiki down to every word. So I had a link word to slave wiki. I wrote them both, but if you wish to improve the wikis by adding info on feel free to.

My issue isn't with the slave/slavery implication, per se, but with the collar/slavery one (...which aren't showing up in the tag implication search).

not all slaves - per the 'slavery' wiki definition excerpt below - wear collars.

Slaves are viewed as property by their owners, and some wear a collar or have their body branded to show their slave's status.

not all those who wear collars are slaves - see fashion, character differentiation, and the other gamut of non-slave, but probably somewhat D/s reasons.

therefore not all of those who wear collars are slaves.

And that's from a purely e6-internal perspective, never mind the expectations of the users...

leo_nine said:
My issue isn't with the slave/slavery implication, per se, but with the collar/slavery one (...which aren't showing up in the tag implication search).

Well attempting to follow tag what you see, a collar on something other then an animal is a sign of something owned. If you have a better idea, please do say so I would love to hear it.

However I am NOT suggesting we do a collar and slavery implication...as collars are also used on animals as well, so it wouldnt work. I just noticed images that have slavery dont have the slave tag or vise versa, so I wanted to just have a slave and slavery implication done.

Conker said:
Well attempting to follow tag what you see, a collar on something other then an animal is a sign of something owned.

Again with the blanket statement.

You're treating this as an absolute, when it clearly isn't.

Also, I never suggested a slavery/collar implication, I inferred one from the presence of the slave/slavery tags on images where it doesn't seem to belong...

Conker said:
Well attempting to follow tag what you see, a collar on something other then an animal is a sign of something owned. If you have a better idea, please do say so I would love to hear it.

You can't just implicate a tag based on your personal experiences...
I know plenty of people who use it for fashion reasons, and even one that has like a mini neck brace made to look like a collar. What I'm trying to say is that even though you may use the collar when you are playing slave, doesn't mean anyone else is, collar is as much a fashion accessory as anything being that the pictures are of freaking animals.

There are a bunch of people who wear collars as fashion and not as a sign of ownership. Collars do not mean slavery, that's just ridiculous.

Moon_Moon said:
You can't just implicate a tag based on your personal experiences...

I never said any of this was from any experience or that I am doing it from that. Also history tells us the point of collars on non feral animals...

Anyway WE ARE GETTING MASSIVELY OFF TOPIC GUYS.
This thread has nothing to do with the collar tag, so please take this elsewhere.

Making this an alias as it seems to be the same thing with different verbiage

Rainbow_Dash said:
Making this an alias as it seems to be the same thing with different verbiage

Sorry to necro, but what happened to this alias?
I can't see any reason it shouldn't be, any image tagged slave would involve slavery and any image tagged slavery should contain at least one slave.

Don't agree with the collar > slave implication Conker was suggesting though.

Halite said:
Sorry to necro, but what happened to this alias?
I can't see any reason it shouldn't be, any image tagged slave would involve slavery and any image tagged slavery should contain at least one slave.

but slavery the act of slavery, not just a slave. But yeah what happened to this? it seems alot of old threads where left ignored

123easy said:
Don't agree with the collar > slave implication Conker was suggesting though.

I never suggested we do collar to slave implication. I just mentioned it was one thing to look out for but is not always used as such

Conker said:
but slavery the act of slavery, not just a slave. But yeah what happened to this? it seems alot of old threads where left ignored

But is there ever a situation where one could be tagged, and not the other?
I can't think of one, so these tags seem redundant.

Halite said:
But is there ever a situation where one could be tagged, and not the other?
I can't think of one, so these tags seem redundant.

Well images showing slavery as in the action of it, perhaps enslaving, beating ect. Idk, whatever we go with though I'd like to get this tag done with

Halite said:
But is there ever a situation where one could be tagged, and not the other?
I can't think of one, so these tags seem redundant.

Hmm. Someone saying, off-image, "Hello, Master, how can this slave serve you?" could be tagged slavery as it's implied there is slavery occuring, but no slave is actually in the image, just their speech bubble, but that's just such a vanishingly small aspect that I think we could safely alias one oto the other, probably to slavery as it is the slightly wider-usage (as in, can be used across a wider range of subjects) term.

123easy said:
Hmm. Someone saying, off-image, "Hello, Master, how can this slave serve you?" could be tagged slavery as it's implied there is slavery occuring, but no slave is actually in the image, just their speech bubble, but that's just such a vanishingly small aspect that I think we could safely alias one oto the other, probably to slavery as it is the slightly wider-usage (as in, can be used across a wider range of subjects) term.

We don't tag speech

Halite said:
We don't tag speech

Tell that to everyone that does tag it. >.o

123easy said:
Tell that to everyone that does tag it. >.o

I do, when I see it happen.