Topic: Nazi / Political Armbands BUR

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #11859 is pending approval.

mass update nazi_armband -> nazi_armband_system
create implication nazi_armband_system (0) -> political_armband (8)
create implication political_armband (8) -> armband (17209)

Reason: Starting this off with a wiki draft I was halfway through before deciding "maybe there's a better way to do this."

post #172254post #2202152post #5695792
A specific style of political armband, consisting of a black symbol (usually a swastika) encircled in white on a colored background. A nazi armband may exist either as part of a full outfit such as Schutzstaffel, or may be incorporated into otherwise unrelated outfits, as is common practice for political armbands.

Despite the name, examples may not necessarily use nazi symbology, and some historical nazi-designed armbands completely lack elements associated with the most popular designs (i.e. the Reichsbahn armband.)

Wikipedia calls this, in quotes, the "armband system", citing "Uniforms of the NSDAP" from 2007, in an article that shows various different designs of the same style, adding more gold details with higher ranks; even among nazis, the design was mutable. So the popular, systematic design should probably be under this tag, and anything that takes similar cues but isn't specifically a nazi armband can also include "nazi_armband_system", and other historical nazi armbands are something like nazi_germany political_armband instead.

I think it would be a really good idea to implement something like this to let people avoid some nazi-adjacent posts that otherwise wouldn't be caught except by blacklisting armband entirely.

Potential changes:

  • Are all Nazi_armband_system-styled armbands worn by "nazis"? They definitely feel like they're meant to evoke that image, so should "nazi" be implied even on, say, post #1472215? Or should they remain separate for searching/blacklisting purposes?
  • Is there a parent tag we might use for cases like Japanese student council armbands, Persona 3's Special Extracurricular Execution Squad's armbands, etc.? organizational_armband? Should nazi civilian armbands count as organizational instead?
  • Is this mass update safer as an alias? Does anybody even care about the difference between nazi civilian and nazi officer armbands?

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Watsit

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Tagging it as a "system" here sounds odd. Makes it sound like the protocol for identification or something more specific to the soldier hierarchy, rather than the armband itself. Like tagging "police badge system" for a police badge, or "emergency light system" for the flashing emergency lights on vehicles.

watsit said:
Tagging it as a "system" here sounds odd. Makes it sound like the protocol for identification or something more specific to the soldier hierarchy, rather than the armband itself. Like tagging "police badge system" for a police badge, or "emergency light system" for the flashing emergency lights on vehicles.

"nazi officer armband" is about the only other idea I have that doesn't involve separating parody nazis from real nazis.

I don't like the 'system' part. If anything, 'system' and 'officer' sound more specific and like a worse fit for parody/inspired-by/homage stuff.

Just spitballing here- the umbrella tag could be 'nazi_style_armband'? The swastika one could be maybe 'nazi_swastika_armband', which would imply the first tag.

The bulk update request #11881 is pending approval.

mass update nazi_armband -> nazi_officer_style_armband
create implication nazi_officer_style_armband (0) -> political_armband (8)
create implication political_armband (8) -> armband (17209)

Reason: Let's try this on for size then. Parody or not, these are in the style of Nazi Party officials, and not civilians like railway workers. swastika nazi_officer_style_armband is probably sufficient for finding normal-ish ones, and nazi_officer_style_armband -swastika (subtract "nazi" or other symbols as needed) should basically only pull up parodies.