Topic: Retire mixed-group pairing tags

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #11832 is pending approval.

remove implication ambiguous_on_anthro (637) -> ambiguous_gender (353020)
remove implication ambiguous_on_anthro (637) -> anthro (3746447)
remove alias anthro_on_ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_on_anthro (637)
remove alias anthro/ambiguous (3) -> ambiguous_on_anthro (637)
remove alias ambiguous/anthro (0) -> ambiguous_on_anthro (637)
remove implication ambiguous_on_feral (311) -> ambiguous_gender (353020)
remove implication ambiguous_on_feral (311) -> feral (675350)
remove alias feral_on_ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_on_feral (311)
remove alias feral/ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_on_feral (311)
remove alias ambiguous/feral (0) -> ambiguous_on_feral (311)
remove implication ambiguous_on_human (2196) -> ambiguous_gender (353020)
remove implication ambiguous_on_human (2196) -> human (413791)
remove alias human_on_ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_on_human (2196)
remove alias human/ambiguous (2) -> ambiguous_on_human (2196)
remove alias ambiguous/human (0) -> ambiguous_on_human (2196)
remove implication ambiguous_on_humanoid (166) -> ambiguous_gender (353020)
remove implication ambiguous_on_humanoid (166) -> humanoid (497912)
remove alias ambiguous/humanoid (0) -> ambiguous_on_humanoid (166)
remove implication ambiguous_on_taur (11) -> ambiguous_gender (353020)
remove implication ambiguous_on_taur (11) -> taur (20688)
remove alias ambiguous/taur (0) -> ambiguous_on_taur (11)

Reason: General forum opinion appears to oppose mixed-group pairing tags such as these, as they create combinatorial explosion and and are redundant with combo searches of existing tags. (Forgive me if this has already been suggested, but the BUR search feature's inability to search for multi-word phrases makes it impossible to search for this topic.)

Followup BUR
alias ambiguous_on_anthro -> ambiguous_gender
alias ambiguous_on_feral -> ambiguous_gender
alias ambiguous_on_human -> ambiguous_gender
alias ambiguous_on_humanoid -> ambiguous_gender
alias ambiguous_on_taur -> ambiguous_gender

Watsit

Privileged

The <gender>_on_<form> ones should be kept since it can be difficult to impossible to get that information otherwise, and it can be pretty important to people's blacklists or searches for mixed-form pairings (some people may really not like non-feral males with a feral, but be fine with non-feral females with a feral, for instance). It's x_verbing_y that's the problem and are redundant, the x_on_y tags don't cause as much of an explosion since they aren't reversible (male_on_feral and feral_on_male are the same thing and aliased together), and don't always have other tags to replace it with since it's not for a specific act, just any romantic or sexual interaction.

beholding said:
The bulk update request #11832 is pending approval.

remove implication ambiguous_on_anthro (637) -> ambiguous_gender (353020)
remove implication ambiguous_on_anthro (637) -> anthro (3746447)
remove alias anthro_on_ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_on_anthro (637)
remove alias anthro/ambiguous (3) -> ambiguous_on_anthro (637)
remove alias ambiguous/anthro (0) -> ambiguous_on_anthro (637)
remove implication ambiguous_on_feral (311) -> ambiguous_gender (353020)
remove implication ambiguous_on_feral (311) -> feral (675350)
remove alias feral_on_ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_on_feral (311)
remove alias feral/ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_on_feral (311)
remove alias ambiguous/feral (0) -> ambiguous_on_feral (311)
remove implication ambiguous_on_human (2196) -> ambiguous_gender (353020)
remove implication ambiguous_on_human (2196) -> human (413791)
remove alias human_on_ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_on_human (2196)
remove alias human/ambiguous (2) -> ambiguous_on_human (2196)
remove alias ambiguous/human (0) -> ambiguous_on_human (2196)
remove implication ambiguous_on_humanoid (166) -> ambiguous_gender (353020)
remove implication ambiguous_on_humanoid (166) -> humanoid (497912)
remove alias ambiguous/humanoid (0) -> ambiguous_on_humanoid (166)
remove implication ambiguous_on_taur (11) -> ambiguous_gender (353020)
remove implication ambiguous_on_taur (11) -> taur (20688)
remove alias ambiguous/taur (0) -> ambiguous_on_taur (11)

Reason: General forum opinion appears to oppose mixed-group pairing tags such as these, as they create combinatorial explosion and and are redundant with combo searches of existing tags. (Forgive me if this has already been suggested, but the BUR search feature's inability to search for multi-word phrases makes it impossible to search for this topic.)

Followup BUR
alias ambiguous_on_anthro -> ambiguous_gender
alias ambiguous_on_feral -> ambiguous_gender
alias ambiguous_on_human -> ambiguous_gender
alias ambiguous_on_humanoid -> ambiguous_gender
alias ambiguous_on_taur -> ambiguous_gender

all this going to manage to do is make searching harder and piss people off cause their blacklists stopped working

watsit said:
The <gender>_on_<form> ones should be kept since it can be difficult to impossible to get that information otherwise, and it can be pretty important to people's blacklists or searches for mixed-form pairings (some people may really not like non-feral males with a feral, but be fine with non-feral females with a feral, for instance). It's x_verbing_y that's the problem and are redundant, the x_on_y tags don't cause as much of an explosion since they aren't reversible (male_on_feral and feral_on_male are the same thing and aliased together), and don't always have other tags to replace it with since it's not for a specific act, just any romantic or sexual interaction.

ngl male_on_feral and feral_on_male different things imo male_on_Feral means the feral is bottoming vice versa but ik this isnt up for debate

watsit said:
The <gender>_on_<form> ones should be kept since it can be difficult to impossible to get that information otherwise, and it can be pretty important to people's blacklists or searches for mixed-form pairings (some people may really not like non-feral males with a feral, but be fine with non-feral females with a feral, for instance). It's x_verbing_y that's the problem and are redundant, the x_on_y tags don't cause as much of an explosion since they aren't reversible (male_on_feral and feral_on_male are the same thing and aliased together), and don't always have other tags to replace it with since it's not for a specific act, just any romantic or sexual interaction.

I don't really see a reason to keep most of the <gender>_on_<form> tags, for the most part they feel kinda superfluous. but specifically the <gender>_on_feral group feel more valid, bestiality being considered a wholly separate category of pairing and all, they're also quite a bit older, if I'm not mistaken.

Watsit

Privileged

dba_afish said:
I don't really see a reason to keep most of the <gender>_on_<form> tags, for the most part they feel kinda superfluous. but specifically the <gender>_on_feral group feel more valid, bestiality being considered a wholly separate category of pairing and all, they're also quite a bit older, if I'm not mistaken.

I also see <gender>_on_anthro being similarly valid, as a kind of "soft bestiality" for humans/humanoids of a particular gender on anthros (though the tag is also valid for ferals of the given gender on anthros too, so it's not perfect).

alphamule

Privileged

It's not really that many combinations. This doesn't lead to tag explosion. Others mentioned the other problems with it.