Topic: BUR: grok -> grox_(xai)

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Donovan DMC

Former Staff

Isn't grok actually owned by xAI (which also separately owns X/Twitter), and not actually owned by Twitter

I hate the fact I'm going to defend that absolutely-not-but-neo-nazi's website stupid name... twitter is no longer the official name, so the implication should be reversed

This should really be flipped since Grok did not exist until the Elongated Musk took over.

donovan_dmc said:
Isn't grok actually owned by xAI (which also separately owns X/Twitter), and not actually owned by Twitter

Yes. I'm voting for this alias anyway, since Twitter is a critical data set that trains Grok and people access Grok through the Twitter platform, so the connection makes sense to me. (And also, I don't respect the rebrand where the person who is the primary owner of both entities is trying to own one of the 26 letters of the English alphabet.)

donkdewd said:
Yes. I'm voting for this alias anyway, since Twitter is a critical data set that trains Grok and people access Grok through the Twitter platform, so the connection makes sense to me. (And also, I don't respect the rebrand where the person who is the primary owner of both entities is trying to own one of the 26 letters of the English alphabet.)

Our individual feeling towards Elon Musk is irrelevant. The correct brand's name is X.

I hate the guy, I really do, but this is wrong: Grok is integrated in but not exclusively part of Twitter (xAI is a perfectly acceptable suffix), and the whole idea of continuing to use the name "Twitter" is not necessarily a global phenomenon. How many non-Americans do you know who're aware of Elon Musk's political activities?

I recognize that the two posts above are totally correct, but I don't regret voting against letting someone who already owns so much also literally steal a letter from the alphabet, like a villain in a children's book. I mean, he's already won - my stance is quixotic / futile, but I'm a quixotic / futile personality.

lafcadio said:
the whole idea of continuing to use the name "Twitter" is not necessarily a global phenomenon. How many non-Americans do you know who're aware of Elon Musk's political activities?

anecdotal, but, from the bit I've seen from foreign language creators and discussions around them, "Twitter" might actually be more preferred over "X" with people who aren't as tuned-in to US/western politics. refusing to switch over to the new, less recognizable name isn't necessarily an anti-Musk thing, as much as an anti-dumb thing.

also, it's not like he's not got his fingers in politics outside of the US as well, seeing as he did explicitly support the AfD.

anyway, we generally use twitter as a tag to refer to branding (both official and external) based on the site's identity prior to the rebrand. using a *_(twitter) suffix on something like this would most certainly go against this standard.

grok_(xai) would be best.

Given that xAI is a separate company, the Twitter/X debate is irrelevant here, in my opinion. Grok is integrated into Twitter X but has a standalone website and apps. In theory, even if very unlikely, Grok's integration could be removed from Twitter entirely and make this tag name even more incorrect.

grok_(xai) is the right choice here, or alternatively, Wikipedia uses Grok_(chatbot). Though, honesty, "chatbot" sounds very 90s to me and I personally haven't heard anybody use that word to describe an LLM.

lafcadio said:
How many non-Americans do you know who're aware of Elon Musk's political activities?

Just about everyone. Are you really unaware of Americans' bipartisan fascination with cramming their politics down the rest of the world's throats? Hell, many Europeans I know actually end up understanding U.S. politics more in-depth than most Americans do.

Tesla's global sales are slumping, partly by stronger competition and partly by boycotts over Elon Musk's political stances. Difficult to tell the true impact, but it's evident the world is very aware.

Let's try not to veer into politics and the foibles of a rich boy whose swelled head has gotten too big for his britches. The relevant question is whether (x), (twitter), or (xai) should be the proper suffix for this particular Grok.

The alternative as mentioned above, for those who prefer it, that can't be applied until and unless the OP request is rejected:

alias grok_(x) -> grok_(xai)
alias grok_(twitter) -> grok_(xai)