The bulk update request #11722 is pending approval.

create alias sexuality_change (61) -> orientation_change (0)
create implication orientation_change (0) -> orientation_play (1811)

Reason: Changing the wording to be consistent with orientation play. Also since orientation play involves someone acting outside of their stated orientation, having one's orientation changed would fall under that.

It does seem reasonable that sexuality_change could just be considered to be the same as orientation_play for all intents and purposes.
I don't know that a bulk update request involving a new tag with zero current uses as an intermediate step is the best way to do it, though.

leafdapple said:
Also since orientation play involves someone acting outside of their stated orientation, having one's orientation changed would fall under that.

I don't think it would. Orientation play is basically when one steps out of their normal orientation to do some act that's different from what they are (e.g. a straight guy kissing another guy), but a character's orientation can "change" without that. Like, a guy can think, act, and for all intents and purposes "be straight", but then they see some other guy that gets their attention and comes out as bi or gay without having to do some gay activity. That would be an orientation change, but not orientation play.

watsit said:
I don't think it would. Orientation play is basically when one steps out of their normal orientation to do some act that's different from what they are (e.g. a straight guy kissing another guy), but a character's orientation can "change" without that. Like, a guy can think, act, and for all intents and purposes "be straight", but then they see some other guy that gets their attention and comes out as bi or gay without having to do some gay activity. That would be an orientation change, but not orientation play.

From my understanding attraction would still be tagged male/male. I also think it's orientation play if someone who is hitherto identifying with an identity acts in a manner discordant with it (or is forced to act) including attraction, regardless of their "end" sexuality.

leafdapple said:
From my understanding attraction would still be tagged male/male. I also think it's orientation play if someone who is hitherto identifying with an identity acts in a manner discordant with it (or is forced to act) including attraction, regardless of their "end" sexuality.

I read *_play tags as a character acting against how they are, either by accident, some outside force, or curiosity. Their orientation is being played with, willingly or not, it's a character acting as something they apparently aren't. A character that's not gay/bi doing something gay, rather than a character behaving as though they were straight then realizing they aren't.

To be sure, the two can happen together, a straight character that comes out as gay/bi as a result of doing something gay that they weren't sure of or didn't know going into it. I just don't think that all instances of a character's apparent sexuality changing has to be a result of their orientation being played with like that. For example, a straight couple hanging out with a gay friend, and without a missing a beat, the "straight" guy starts hitting on the gay friend clearly interested in him. I wouldn't call that "orientation play" since the guy himself simply realized he wanted the gay friend; he wasn't acting as something he's not, it was only the audience's expectation the "straight" guy wouldn't do something gay, but the guy himself had no qualms with broadening his horizons when the opportunity arose, so to speak.