The bulk update request #11718 is pending approval.

create alias femboy_penetrating (0) -> femboy_top (0)
create alias femboy_penetrating_male (0) -> femboy_top (0)
create alias femboy_penetrating_female (0) -> femboy_top (0)
create alias femboy_penetrating_gynomorph (0) -> femboy_top (0)
create alias femboy_penetrating_intersex (0) -> femboy_top (0)
create alias femboy_penetrating_andromorph (0) -> femboy_top (0)
create alias femboy_penetrating_femboy (0) -> femboy_top (0)
create alias femboy_penetrated (3) -> femboy_bottom (0)
create alias male_penetrating_femboy (1) -> femboy_bottom (0)
create alias female_penetrating_femboy (0) -> femboy_bottom (0)
create alias gynomorph_penetrating_femboy (0) -> femboy_bottom (0)
create alias intersex_penetrating_femboy (0) -> femboy_bottom (0)
create alias femboy_penetrating_femboy (0) -> femboy_bottom (0)
create implication femboy_top (0) -> femboy (168347)
create implication femboy_bottom (0) -> femboy (168347)

Reason: To allow further descriptiveness to works involving femboys, I propose two new tags to define whether a feminine male character is a top (penetrator) or bottom (penetratee).

Definition

- Refers to when a femboy is penetrating another character or object, or is depicted to desire to do so (eg. dreaming about it or explicitly stating so).
femboy_bottom - Refers to when a femboy is penetrated by another character or object, or is depicted to desire it (eg. dreaming about it or explicitly stating so).

The exact definition can, of course, be changed and even the tags can be renamed if you have better ideas.

As mentioned in the other thread, *_top and *_bottom should be avoided as they can be ambiguous wording, especially when *_penetrating and *_penetrated are already there.

A) Bottom and top are interpreted literally, here.
B) The term you want is dom, and it's still wrong.
C) There is a concept called power bottom.

You probably want femboy_penetrating and femboy_penetrated. Also, isn't that a lore tag?

alphamule said:
You probably want femboy_penetrating and femboy_penetrated. Also, isn't that a lore tag?

Those were rejected.

alphamule said:
A) Bottom and top are interpreted literally, here.

and penetrated were rejected, so there aren't many alternatives.

alphamule said:
B) The term you want is dom, and it's still wrong.

Dom tags already exist and have nothing to do with this request.

alphamule said:
C) There is a concept called power bottom.

That doesn't effect this discussion. It is an existing tag.

alphamule said:Also, isn't that a lore tag?

Tags can be updated in retrospect, I simply want to get the foot in the door, because I think the site needs these tags.

averagebuttlover said:
penetrating and penetrated were rejected, so there aren't many alternatives.

Again, the issue is the concept, not the specific words. femboy_penetrating and femboy_penetrated would be the preferred wording, but people don't conceptually like tagging these things. Changing to more ambiguous wording but being the same idea, even aliasing the preferred wording to more ambiguous ones, doesn't make it better.

watsit said:
Again, the issue is the concept, not the specific words. femboy_penetrating and femboy_penetrated would be the preferred wording, but people don't conceptually like tagging these things. Changing to more ambiguous wording but being the same idea, even aliasing the preferred wording to more ambiguous ones, doesn't make it better.

Then why is josou_seme a thing? It seems people do like using that tag to signify a femboy penetrating. Also, no one has really given me a any actual reasoning for being against the idea, I couldn't tell whether the concept or the tag style was the issue, in fact, I got semi-confirmation that it was the style so I figured I'd try this.

averagebuttlover said:
Then why is josou_seme a thing? It seems people do like using that tag to signify a femboy penetrating. Also, no one has really given me a any actual reasoning for being against the idea, I couldn't tell whether the concept or the tag style was the issue, in fact, I got semi-confirmation that it was the style so I figured I'd try this.

I'd be happy to see that tag go away. But as I said, I'd be amenable to having a femboy_penetrating tag if it means we can get rid of that tag, but I would be against femboy_top due to unnecessary ambiguity with top/bottom that's very easy to avoid.

You rejected the previous proposal, not the admins., it could've still been accepted with the right people being convinced. Vote count only shows how other users feel about it, it's not always a reflection of whether it will be accepted or rejected by the admins; aliases/implications can be accepted despite opposition, or be rejected despite strong support.

watsit said:
You rejected the previous proposal, not the admins., it could've still been accepted with the right people being convinced. Vote count only shows how other users feel about it, it's not always a reflection of whether it will be accepted or rejected by the admins; aliases/implications can be accepted despite opposition, or be rejected despite strong support.

Feel free to make a BUR yourself then, I just can't right now.