Topic: Tag implication: disposal -> after_vore

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

watsit said:
To be clear, I didn't say I find it disturbing, nor did I say I hate it. I don't even find vore disturbing. It's not my thing, but I can enjoy some forms of it and I'm perfectly capable of just not looking at it when I don't want to. However, I do recognize that vore is a contentious fetish, that there are people who do find it disturbing and wouldn't appreciate having to look at the wiki page for something vore-related (a particularly extreme act even within vore, too; the digestion/death of another, often paired with feces) to figure out what to use for a generic non-vore act.

What I don't like about this argument is that literally any fetish, even porn itself, could be considered "contentious" depending on who you ask. The idea that someone, especially a conscious and willing user of e621, wouldn't be able to handle a wiki page of a particular fetish just sounds like a complete non-issue to me, let alone the part where they accidentally stumbled upon the fetish by trying to use a tag in a way that less than 20 people have used in the past 8 years. Heck, even if this unlikely scenario did happen, I personally don't see how that person's emotional distress is the website's responsibility.

Really treating that "less than 20" as if it were the silver bullet that it's not...

Versperus

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Stop the arguments and throwing shade. Discuss the topic at hand; if you don’t have anything constructive to add beyond arguing, then don't comment here.

SCTH

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And now Gyro's BUR is back to just the same implication as the top post, rather than an alias. You really shouldn't change something like that after people have voted.

Gyro

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scth said:
And now Gyro's BUR is back to just the same implication as the top post, rather than an alias. You really shouldn't change something like that after people have voted.

I actually said that in thread. A few posts back. The only thing changed on this edit was a few additional implications. Its been that way since last night. Watsit insisted that if we set up an alias it HAS to be a disambiguation, which is something I disagree with.

watsit said:
The autocomplete will show it, yes. As long as you're typing slow enough for it to pop up and pay attention to what it shows. Not completely invisible, but not the best way to show something's wrong with the tag you're trying to use, nor indicate what you probably should use instead. If you don't see the autocomplete, and don't check over the tags on the posted image to see it having vore related tags, it's very easy to miss and leave the post with multiple mistags. A disambiguation, in contrast, is purposely designed to stand out and draw attention to a tag being bad, and gives a neutral place to check for alternate tags for what you should tag instead. If you're aliasing a potentially ambiguous tag to a specific meaning of a term, that's less helpful. If a tag needs clarity, as indicated by such an alias, that's the whole point of disambiguation tags. Much like how krystal didn't get aliased to krystal_(star_fox) with the latter's wiki explaining other possible krystals, despite it meaning that the vast majority of the time, but instead was aliased to krystal_(disambiguation) and people changed over to krystal_(star_fox) as needed. Ever since disambiguation tags have been introduced, this is how potentially ambiguous tags have been handled, and I don't see a reason to make an exception here.

gyro said:
It doesnt need an alias. We were just throwing you a bone because you thought it was important to make it clear. But if the only reason to have an alias is because it requires a disambiguation tag, then I guess I should remove it from teh BuR.

my final message on this topic I think,

I see no reason why it shouldnt be implicated, it will simply increase searchability and improve the blacklist's ability to filter out vore

I think that something everyone no matter their stance on vore can get behind, While its a "general" term its been used by the vore community on this website for over 8 years with only 19 mistags , so I think there is precedent that this tag is fine not being disambiguated

Updated

Right, I think it's fairly obvious that, other than the alleged confusion which has been discussed extensively at this point, there's not a single reason not to do it and every reason to do it.