The tag alias #74626 shower_room -> shower is pending approval.

Reason: The definition sounds like a locker_room, actual use doesn't follow this and appears interchangeable with just 'shower'.

A shower_room is a public area with multiple showers, which occasionally may be implied by falling water.
post #4712359
Seems like a useful tag to me.

crocogator said:
Seems like a useful tag to me.

A number of posts with the tag just have a shower in a bathroom:
post #5206118 post #5129939 post #5145422 post #4993703
and more are just a nondescript shower wall background
post #5251472 post #5131998 post #5033277

It seems ambiguous if nothing else, with people interpreting it as just "a room with a shower", not necessarily public or with more than one shower, also applying to bathrooms, wash rooms, and shower stalls.

crocogator said:
A shower_room is a public area with multiple showers, which occasionally may be implied by falling water.
post #4712359
Seems like a useful tag to me.

The concept isn't useless, but the use of it is messy. Even that image given as an example shows no indication that it's public or has multiple showers, as opposed to a single shower with two shower heads.

there's also public shower, which looks to be the same concept

The bulk update request #10048 is pending approval.

create implication communal_shower (995) -> public_shower (473)
create implication public_shower (473) -> shower (17837)

Reason:

pleaseletmein said:
there's also public shower, which looks to be the same concept

Actually, that seems like a better name than shower_room. I still don't like removing the tag entirely because some people are bad at tagging, but maybe we should nuke shower_room and use public_shower instead.

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BUR reason: A Communal_shower is a type of public_shower. A shower stall is public--otherwise it would just be a private bathroom instead. A public shower is public by definition. If the picture depicts enough context to indicate it's located in a public_shower area, then there must be a shower, I think.

crocogator said:
The bulk update request #10048 is pending approval.

create implication communal_shower (995) -> public_shower (473)
create implication public_shower (473) -> shower (17837)

Reason: Actually, that seems like a better name than shower_room. I still don't like removing the tag entirely because some people are bad at tagging, but maybe we should nuke shower_room and use public_shower instead.

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BUR reason: A Communal_shower is a type of public_shower. A shower stall is public--otherwise it would just be a private bathroom instead. A public shower is public by definition. If the picture depicts enough context to indicate it's located in a public_shower area, then there must be a shower, I think.

I'm not sure we should imply it to public though, no other public location (public_transportation, for example) implies it.

dba_afish said:
I'm not sure we should imply it to public though, no other public location (public_transportation, for example) implies it.

Alright, I'll remove shower_stall -> public and public_shower -> public. Whether any locations should imply public could be a whole separate thread someday.

crocogator said:
Alright, I'll remove shower_stall -> public and public_shower -> public. Whether any locations should imply public could be a whole separate thread someday.

also, many public locations are only public in certain situations. you could reasonably have characters in a location that's meant to be used by the public normally be there in a situation when it's not. janitorial staff in a school while it's closed, characters trespassing in an abandoned amusement_park, investigators in a public_restroom that's a crime scene.