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Topic: Directional Arrow tags

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #9191 is pending approval.

create implication arrow_pointing_to_butt (130) -> directional_arrow (6117)
create implication arrow_pointing_to_penis (67) -> directional_arrow (6117)
create implication arrow_pointing_to_mouth (33) -> directional_arrow (6117)
create implication arrow_pointing_to_nipple (28) -> directional_arrow (6117)
create implication arrow_pointing_to_belly (37) -> directional_arrow (6117)
create implication arrow_pointing_to_face (20) -> directional_arrow (6117)
create implication arrow_pointing_to_balls (14) -> directional_arrow (6117)
create implication arrow_pointing_to_armpit (5) -> directional_arrow (6117)
create implication arrow_pointing_to_foot (5) -> directional_arrow (6117)

Reason: Another batch of tags for variations of the same thing, of which only one (arrow_pointing_to_crotch) currently implicates the general tag for that thing.

Watsit

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Are individual arrow_pointing_to_<thing> tags a bit overkill? There are more generic pointing_at_<thing> tags that could be combined with directional_arrow, without having a separate set specifically for arrows.

It also seems like directional_arrow is handling somewhat separate concepts, one being diegetic "in scene" arrows like body writing:

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or non-diegetic arrows meant to draw solely the viewer's attention somewhere:
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or non-diegetic arrows meant to convey motion:
2024 alcohol ambiguous_gender anthro beverage biped black_bodysuit black_clothing black_eyes black_skinsuit blush bodysuit cheek_tuft chinese_text clothed clothing coat colored digital_media_(artwork) directional_arrow drugs drunk eyes_closed facial_tuft falling_over felid feline footwear front_view fully_clothed fur hat head_tilt headgear headwear hi_res ji_(nine_sols) kemono looking_at_viewer lying male male_anthro mammal monotone_body monotone_fur mouthless multiple_images narrowed_eyes nine_sols on_side open_mouth question_mark red_candle_games red_clothing red_hat red_headwear robe rolyz sake sake_bottle shoes simple_background sitting skinsuit smile smoking_pipe solarian solo speech_bubble standing stoned substance_intoxication text tight_clothing topwear translated tuft white_background white_body white_ears white_eyes white_fur yellow_clothing yellow_coat yellow_topwear yi_(nine_sols)
anthro biped bottomless brown_spots brown_tail cheetah clothed clothing directional_arrow ear_piercing english_text felid feline fur grey_background hi_res humor loppifi male mammal markings multicolored_body multicolored_fur multicolored_tail piercing question_mark red_eyes shirt simple_background solo spots spotted_markings spotted_tail t-shirt tail tail_markings text text_on_clothing text_on_shirt text_on_t-shirt text_on_topwear topwear wren_(loppifi) yellow_body yellow_fur yellow_tail

watsit said:
It also seems like directional_arrow is handling somewhat separate concepts...

Weeeell, that's actually the exact thought I had before posting this. The post I wanted to tag had a non-diegetic arrow for attention-drawing, yet the wiki entry for arrow_pointing_to_crotch (which was the case there) only mentions diegetic cases. There is motion_arrow, though, for that one case, but otherwise nothing to distinguish diegetic from not (either that or I'm way too sleep-deprived and couldn't find some existing appropriate tags).

But it seems like the choice is either more tags for all the variations, or some degree of ambiguity, since pointing_at_<thing>, I believe, usually describes a character pointing at whatever. So it would have to be describing a character pointing at whatever, unless accompanied by directional_arrow, in which case it's a drawn arrow, diegetic or otherwise. Or it may contain both a character pointing and a drawn arrow. Which sounds far too complex and inconvenient for the purposes of searching by tags.

IMO it'd be best to keep the arrow_pointing_at_<thing> tags and then add some (well, just two, really) for distinguishing diegetic and non-diegetic directional arrows. Heck, I'd be down to help populate them. But I'd let admins or mods decide, they have far more experience than me.

I think the best way might be to have directional_arrow as the umbrella tag and have a sub category which implies it called non-diegetic_arrow and have motion_arrow imply that.

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