Topic: imply tail_auto* to auto*

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #8992 is pending approval.

create implication tail_autofellatio (80) -> autofellatio (9471)
create implication tail_autocunnilingus (43) -> autocunnilingus (853)
create implication tail_autorimming (28) -> autorimming (301)
create implication tail_autopenetration (1) -> autopenetration (2951)

Reason: I can't think of a scenario where a character's tail would be doing one of these things and it wouldn't count as the thing

The bulk update request #10256 is pending approval.

create implication tail_autopenetration (1) -> tail_masturbation (2605)
create implication tail_autopenetration (1) -> tail_insertion (4102)
create implication tail_autofellatio (80) -> tail_masturbation (2605)
create implication tail_autocunnilingus (43) -> tail_masturbation (2605)
create implication tail_autorimming (28) -> tail_masturbation (2605)
create implication tail_in_own_ass (847) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_cloaca (46) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_pussy (656) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_slit (16) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_urethra (12) -> tail_autopenetration (1)

Reason: This is gonna be an interesting web to untangle. Are we all fine with tail_autopenetration? Even if it's really close with tail penetration which means penetrating the tail. Or do we want tail autoinsertion

Watsit

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Do we need distinct tags for a tail doing these things? Wouldn't tail_auto* tags be largely the same as auto*+ tail_masturbation? This seems like it would then allow for finger_auto*, tongue_auto*, and other body parts. It also seems like these could be confused between fellatio/cunnilingus/rimming/etc being performed on a tail_penis or literal tailhole (or just treating a tail like a dildo for tail_autofellatio, without a visible penis on it), vs a tail mouth performing fellatio/cunnilingus/rimming/etc on the character.

snpthecat said:
create implication tail_autopenetration (1) -> tail_masturbation (2550)
create implication tail_autopenetration (1) -> tail_insertion (3983)
create implication tail_autofellatio (79) -> tail_masturbation (2550)
create implication tail_cunnilingus (47) -> tail_masturbation (2550)
create implication tail_autorimming (22) -> tail_masturbation (2550)

In either case, tail_cunnilingus looks the odd one out. Shouldn't that be tail_autocunnilingus like the others?

Updated

snpthecat said:
The bulk update request #10256 is pending approval.

create implication tail_autopenetration (1) -> tail_masturbation (2605)
create implication tail_autopenetration (1) -> tail_insertion (4102)
create implication tail_autofellatio (80) -> tail_masturbation (2605)
create implication tail_autocunnilingus (43) -> tail_masturbation (2605)
create implication tail_autorimming (28) -> tail_masturbation (2605)
create implication tail_in_own_ass (847) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_cloaca (46) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_pussy (656) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_slit (16) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_urethra (12) -> tail_autopenetration (1)

Reason: This is gonna be an interesting web to untangle. Are we all fine with tail_autopenetration? Even if it's really close with tail penetration which means penetrating the tail. Or do we want tail autoinsertion

I think you made a mistake there and accidentally wrote tail_cunnilingus when you meant tail_autocunnilingus.

watsit said:
Do we need distinct tags for a tail doing these things? Wouldn't tail_auto* tags be largely the same as auto*+ tail_masturbation? This seems like it would then allow for finger_auto*, tongue_auto*, and other body parts. It also seems like these could be confused between fellatio/cunnilingus/rimming/etc being performed on a tail_penis or literal tailhole (or just treating a tail like a dildo for tail_autofellatio, without a visible penis on it), vs a tail mouth performing fellatio/cunnilingus/rimming/etc on the character.

I'll concede that tail_autopenetration would be like tail_masturbation autopenetration, but the other tags, like tail autofellatio don't mesh well. See tail_masturbation autofellatio. These are to cover a tail_mouth doing the action (on that note should we imply tail mouth to them?)

And the difference between the hypothetical finger_auto* and tongue_auto* is that finger_mouths and tongue_mouths aren't that common

Updated

Watsit

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snpthecat said:
I'll concede that tail_autopenetration would be like tail_masturbation autopenetration, but the other tags, like tail autofellatio don't mesh well. See tail_masturbation autofellatio. These are to cover a tail_mouth doing the action (on that note should we imply tail mouth to them?)

That may be the intent, but the tag name doesn't give the impression that it's not for a tail/tail_penis being fellated. A character fellating their own tail as if it was a penis, or an actual tail_penis, would still be something worth tagging, and a tag like tail_autofellatio sounds like that would apply.

As an aside, I have trouble considering it autofellatio/masturbation when a separate tail_mouth, with its own apparent mind and behavior, is pleasuring the character the genitals belong to. Unlike a multi-head scenario like cerberus or a hydra where you essentially have multiple heads controlling one body, a tail_mouth/tail_head feels more like a separate entity from the owner of the body, and thus not really pleasuring themself but the character they're connected to. It comes across more as a parasitic relationship, rather than multiple heads "owning" the same body.

watsit said:
That may be the intent, but the tag name doesn't give the impression that it's not for a tail/tail_penis being fellated. A character fellating their own tail as if it was a penis, or an actual tail_penis, would still be something worth tagging, and a tag like tail_autofellatio sounds like that would apply.

As an aside, I have trouble considering it autofellatio/masturbation when a separate tail_mouth, with its own apparent mind and behavior, is pleasuring the character the genitals belong to. Unlike a multi-head scenario like cerberus or a hydra where you essentially have multiple heads controlling one body, a tail_mouth/tail_head feels more like a separate entity from the owner of the body, and thus not really pleasuring themself but the character they're connected to. It comes across more as a parasitic relationship, rather than multiple heads "owning" the same body.

I feel like this level of reasoning is beyond the scope of e621 tagging, but also, a complete extra head seems like it would have more autonomy than just a mouth.