Topic: Should we keep the rescued_dragons_(spyro) tag or alias it to spyro_the_dragon? (BUR inside)

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I get the reasoning behind aliasing, but I like being able to look them up as a collective rather than needing to search for any one in particular

anon023 said:
I get the reasoning behind aliasing, but I like being able to look them up as a collective rather than needing to search for any one in particular

Yeah, it's hard to remember the names of all of them, so having a shared tag is definitely useful.

The bulk update request #10040 is pending approval.

create implication nestor_(spyro) (180) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication gavin_(spyro) (83) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication delbin_(spyro) (62) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication tomas_(spyro) (4) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication argus_(spyro) (4) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication lindar_(spyro) (36) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication alban_(spyro) (18) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication gildas_(spyro) (19) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication darius_(spyro) (5) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication nils_(spyro) (5) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication devlin_(spyro) (4) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication astor_(spyro) (7) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication thor_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication alvar_(spyro) (4) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication oswin_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication nevin_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication magnus_(spyro) (171) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication gunnar_(spyro) (43) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication boris_(spyro) (44) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication halvor_(spyro) (14) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication titan_(spyro) (26) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication asher_(spyro) (35) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication maximos_(spyro) (5) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication trondo_(spyro) (11) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication ragnar_(spyro) (12) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)

Reason: As documented on the wiki page, part 1.

The bulk update request #10041 is pending approval.

create implication todor_(spyro) (5) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication andor_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication enzo_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication marco_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication conan_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication ulric_(spyro) (1) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication ivor_(spyro) (1) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication lucas_(spyro) (12) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication cosmos_(spyro) (12) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication kelvin_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication cedric_(spyro) (7) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication zantor_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication zander_(spyro) (4) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication cyrus_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication altair_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication ajax_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication boldar_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication hexus_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication zane_(spyro) (6) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication eldrid_(spyro) (1) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication jarvis_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication bubba_(spyro) (331) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication cyprin_(spyro) (29) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication lyle_(spyro) (12) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication bruno_(spyro) (10) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)

Reason: As documented on the wiki page, part 2

The bulk update request #10042 is pending approval.

create implication rosco_(spyro) (6) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication damon_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication isaak_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication zeke_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication cleetus_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication claude_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication sadiki_(spyro) (1) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication lateef_(spyro) (27) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication azizi_(spyro) (6) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication unika_(spyro) (6) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication useni_(spyro) (5) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication baruti_(spyro) (5) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication revilo_(spyro) (4) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication zikomo_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication bakari_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication copano_(spyro) (4) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication lutalo_(spyro) (3) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication mudada_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication mazi_(spyro) (1) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication kosoko_(spyro) (1) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication apara_(spyro) (0) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication kasiya_(spyro) (4) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication obasi_(spyro) (2) -> rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003)
create implication rescued_dragons_(spyro) (1003) -> spyro_the_dragon (9877)

Reason: As documented on the wiki page, part 3.

Watsit

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anon023 said:
I get the reasoning behind aliasing, but I like being able to look them up as a collective rather than needing to search for any one in particular

fifteen said:
Yeah, it's hard to remember the names of all of them, so having a shared tag is definitely useful.

Is there anything grouping them together besides their role in one of the games? What if they appear in a future game where they're not a dragon to be rescued?

watsit said:
Is there anything grouping them together besides their role in one of the games? What if they appear in a future game where they're not a dragon to be rescued?

As far as I recall, almost all of them are only in Spyro 1, with like 3 getting a brief cameo in the intro of Spyro 3. As for future games, that's not looking super likely at this time, so I wouldn't design around that.

As for a pitential alternate name for the collective group, there's not a whole lot of information given that would present all that many good options, no. The best I could see is splitting the tag into each world, like artisan_dragon_(spyro), but that seems like a needlessly elaborate solution for a problem that hasn't come up yet.

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Watsit

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fifteen said:
As for a pitential alternate name for the collective group, there's not a whole lot of information given that would present all that many good options, no.

I wasn't thinking of finding an alternate name, but more just finding what links them together. If they're all just normal dragons who's only common feature is Spyro saves them in one of the games, I don't think that warrants a tag to collect them all under any more than a tag for the Toads you rescue in Super Mario, or the Sages you rescue/free in Zelda. Seems superfluous. And usually when we have a tag that refers to a group of characters, it's mainly for when they're all together rather than when any one is present (e.g. team_charm, which isn't implied by any one character in the team), which doesn't seem to be how that tag is getting used.

I'm actually alright with this one because there are 74 of these guys. To search for all of them without this tag, you'd have to painstakingly copy them all into two two different searches due to the 40 tag limit, which would also prevent combining them with any other tags for a more complex search.

I don't love group tags like team_charm because there's only three characters in that group, it's trivially easy to search for all of them together without an umbrella tag. ...or would be if the individuals had character tags, which I just learned right now they don't??