The bulk update request #7731 is active.

remove alias fenghuang_(mythological) (0) -> mythological_fenghuang (65)
remove alias fenghuang_(mythology) (0) -> mythological_fenghuang (65)
remove alias fenghuang_(species) (0) -> mythological_fenghuang (65)
remove alias fenghuang_(bird) (0) -> mythological_fenghuang (65)
remove alias chinese_phoenix (0) -> mythological_fenghuang (65)
remove alias fenghuang (0) -> mythological_fenghuang (65)
remove implication mythological_fenghuang (65) -> east_asian_mythology (25707)
remove implication mythological_fenghuang (65) -> mythological_firebird (2758)

Reason: I have two issues with the current mythological_fenghuang tag:

1. Fenghuangs aren't firebirds. They get called Chinese phoenixes colloquially, but besides being mythological, colorful birds, they really don't have much in common. There's no reason to lump them together.
2. There aren't any non-mythological fenghuangs. Calling the tag mythological_fenghuang is just redundant.

So, let's try to kill two birds with one stone. My two goals are to unimply the tag from mythological_firebird and to rename it to just fenghuang (or if fenghuang_(kung_fu_panda) is a concern, fenghuang_(mythology) is fine too I guess. not ideal, but it's more of a might-as-well-while-we're-here thing since I already wanna toss the firebird implication).

Part 2:

EDIT: The bulk update request #7731 (forum #402087) has been approved by @spe.

This may lead into a "can we just merge mythological_firebird to phoenix" topic, depending on how things go.

strikerman said:
This may lead into a "can we just merge mythological_firebird to phoenix" topic, depending on how things go.

Technically, the <phoenix> is one of four mythological firebirds Wikipedia lists. There's also the bennu, huma bird, and the Slavic firebird, but then we get into the issue of how the heck would we be able to tell them apart on this site? :\

clawstripe said:
Technically, the <phoenix> is one of four mythological firebirds Wikipedia lists. There's also the bennu, huma bird, and the Slavic firebird, but then we get into the issue of how the heck would we be able to tell them apart on this site? :\

Bennu is an individual and not a species, but point still stands.

Bump, better version of topic #55603

I disagree with the removal of firebird. They were often depicted in the center of a fireball and represented fire and the sun within several eastern mythology. Just because they don't rise from the ashes in the same way doesn't not make them represent fire.

Additionally, part of tagging is to make things searchable, so orphaning them from firebird when they are considered the eastern Phoenix just makes them harder to find at no benefit.

The bulk update request #7731 (forum #402087) has been approved by @spe.

The bulk update request #10646 is pending approval.

create alias mythological_fenghuang (65) -> fenghuang (0)
create alias fenghuang_(mythological) (0) -> fenghuang (0)
create alias fenghuang_(mythology) (0) -> fenghuang (0)
create alias fenghuang_(species) (0) -> fenghuang (0)
create alias fenghuang_(bird) (0) -> fenghuang (0)
create alias chinese_phoenix (0) -> fenghuang (0)
create implication fenghuang (0) -> east_asian_mythology (25707)

Reason: Followup