Topic: [APPROVED] I showed you my BUR please respond

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

SNPtheCat

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wat8548 said:
The bulk update request #3878 is active.

create implication please_respond (39) -> snapchat (2811)
create implication please_respond (39) -> meme (58049)

Reason: please_respond is a meme from snapchat.

Source: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-showed-you-my-dick-please-respond

EDIT: The bulk update request #3878 (forum #354105) has been approved by @slyroon.

Didn't realise it was from snapchat.
I don't feel that it should imply snapchat.

Like how menacing_(meme) doesn't imply jojo

Edit: Though of the posts tagged with it, they have the ui (or at least a facsimile of it), which makes me think it might be integral to the meme, in which case this objection may be unfounded.

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Watsit

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snpthecat said:
Didn't realise it was from snapchat.
I don't feel that it should imply snapchat.

Like how menacing_(meme) doesn't imply jojo

Same, it's not a good idea to have a meme implicate where it's from if it can be used without any direct depiction of what it's from.

Honestly, even the way snapchat gets tagged on images that merely have a text overlay with a black/translucent backing border bugs me, since there's nothing specific to snapchat about it. There's no reason non-snapchat sources can't display text in a similar fashion. The snapchat tag should be reserved solely for seeing snapchat, like in post #4461625.

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faucet

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watsit said:
Honestly, even the way snapchat gets tagged on images that merely have a text overlay with a black/translucent backing border bugs me, since there's nothing specific to snapchat about it. There's no reason non-snapchat sources can't display text in a similar fashion. The snapchat tag should be reserved solely for seeing snapchat, like in post #4461625.

I don't necessarily disagree, but you could also argue that the text overlay is just a minimal part of Snapchat's UI and therefore taggable.

If not the snapchat tag itself, how should these images be tagged? I don't think just simply tagging them as text would be good enough, because there's usually more connotations to it than just be an image with overlayed text.

Watsit

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faucet said:
I don't necessarily disagree, but you could also argue that the text overlay is just a minimal part of Snapchat's UI and therefore taggable.

I'm not sure I'd agree given how minimalist it is. Just because some site or service uses a generic UI, doesn't mean all other similarly generic UIs should be tagged as it. Consider Twitter's new logo, which is just an X. Would you argue that a plain X in an image is worthy of tagging Twitter? Even the particular font it uses isn't terribly unique, and has drawn comparisons to other logos.

faucet said:
If not the snapchat tag itself, how should these images be tagged? I don't think just simply tagging them as text would be good enough, because there's usually more connotations to it than just be an image with overlayed text.

I'm not sure. What would you say makes it stand out separate from plain text (or dialog)?

spe

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watsit said:

I'm not sure. What would you say makes it stand out separate from plain text (or dialog)?

Context, usually. The snapchat overlay, in the way it's presented, implies that the post is a picture or video taken by someone on their phone (ie. an unseen additional character, and sometimes not even unseen, if not the focal character taking a selfie as is the case with this meme) and that the text is their commentary on it. That is distinctly not the same thing as overlaying any old text on the screen.
post #4539313
Given that this particular overlay along with what it implies seems to be integral to this meme, I think the snapchat implication is appropriate.

Watsit

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scaliespe said:
Context, usually. The snapchat overlay, in the way it's presented, implies that the post is a picture or video taken by someone on their phone (ie. an unseen additional character, and sometimes not even unseen, if not the focal character taking a selfie as is the case with this meme) and that the text is their commentary on it. That is distinctly not the same thing as overlaying any old text on the screen.
post #4539313

We should tag what makes it distinct, not assume a link to a specific service that's not expressly depicted because of an overly simplified "UI" of text on a translucent bar. Someone can depict the same thing with no link to Snapchat, but we should still be able to tag it separately from simple text/dialog all the same (if it's worth separating).

spe

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watsit said:
We should tag what makes it distinct, not assume a link to a specific service that's not expressly depicted because of an overly simplified "UI" of text on a translucent bar. Someone can depict the same thing with no link to Snapchat, but we should still be able to tag it separately from simple text/dialog all the same (if it's worth separating).

Do you have an idea for an alternate name? I can only think of snapchat_overlay which still ties it to that particular service.
In any case, the cultural connotation with that specific bar overlay is Snapchat. Other things may use a similar format, sure, but it's very highly associated with Snapchat already.

Watsit

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scaliespe said:
Do you have an idea for an alternate name? I can only think of snapchat_overlay which still ties it to that particular service.

I'm still trying to formulate what actually makes those kinds of posts worth distinguishing. It generally has to do with a character communicating regarding something that happened or is happening, possibly to another character or the viewer. It's not strictly the visual style, as you can get a similar thing in a different style (say, a box instead of a bar, different angles, or yellow text on red background instead of white text on black background, a different font, etc). This is the kind of thing people are interested in the tag for, but that's not what the tag is for. Snapchat can be and is used for images different than that, and you can get images like that without snapchat, which indicates poor use of a tag.

scaliespe said:
In any case, the cultural connotation with that specific bar overlay is Snapchat. Other things may use a similar format, sure, but it's very highly associated with Snapchat already.

I don't think that's a good reason to tag something that's not apparent in the image, just because there's some public association between generic text-on-translucent-bar and Snapchat, when it's neither unique to the service or some kind of trademark or patented element of it.

abadbird

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scaliespe said:
Do you have an idea for an alternate name?

caption

I knew what captions were from memes before I'd ever seen one from a phone's picture, and I knew how to tag pictures emulating the phone caption style the instant I first saw one. I've never interacted with Snapchat and would only tag such pictures with caption. This Snapchat caption style seems very easy to copy, probably not original to Snapchat, and I assume other apps can readily add the same overlay. Pretty much every snapchat -caption post contains a caption. Clearly, I'm yelling at clouds and the loss of language again.