Topic: [REJECTED] Tag implication: zoophilia_pride_colors -> pride_colors

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Lafcadio

Janitor

For completeness, from the sister thread:

lafcadio said:
Always include a reason for your implications/aliases, even if you think they're completely obvious.

Based on my reading: I'm not sure that pedophilia_pride_colors and zoophilia_pride_colors qualify for pride_colors, because they deal with a paraphilia, not with gender identity or sexual orientation; the much-maligned straight_pride_colors flag at least manages that much.

And, well, if the basis for this implication is "it has pride_colors in the tag", would playing_human_men_in_RPGs_and_having_sex_with_nonhuman_women_pride_colors count if I were to suddenly blow a few hundred dollars on getting art for that?

Watsit

Privileged

lafcadio said:
Based on my reading: I'm not sure that pedophilia_pride_colors and zoophilia_pride_colors qualify for pride_colors, because they deal with a paraphilia, not with gender identity or sexual orientation

Although:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia
Paraphilia (previously known as sexual perversion and sexual deviation[1]) is the experience of intense sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, fantasies, behaviors, or individuals.[2][3]

There is no scientific consensus for any precise border between unusual sexual interests and paraphilic ones.[4][5] There is debate over which, if any, of the paraphilias should be listed in diagnostic manuals, such as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) or the International Classification of Diseases (ICD).

There doesn't seem to be a clear line between the two, or if a line even exists at all.

Not that I would necessarily argue for these things being put under a blanket pride_colors tag in either case, as it's specifically for "LGBTQ and supporters to show pride for their identities" (though in that case, it may be a good idea to alias it to lgbtq_pride, since there's many other minority groups and identities that this isn't meant for).

electricitywolf

Member

lafcadio said:
Always include a reason for your implications/aliases, even if you think they're completely obvious.

Based on my reading: I'm not sure that pedophilia_pride_colors and zoophilia_pride_colors qualify for pride_colors, because they deal with a paraphilia, not with gender identity or sexual orientation; the much-maligned straight_pride_colors flag at least manages that much.

And, well, if the basis for this implication is "it has pride_colors in the tag", would playing_human_men_in_RPGs_and_having_sex_with_nonhuman_women_pride_colors count if I were to suddenly blow a few hundred dollars on getting art for that?

The zoophilia pride flag is taken seriosuly by many people. If someone made a pride flag for "Playing human men in RPGs and having sex with nonhuman women" and it was taken seriously, playing_human_men_in_RPGs_and_having_sex_with_nonhuman_women_pride_colors should imply pride_colors.

Maybe we should deimply lgbt_pride from pride_colors so we can have pride colors tags for things that have nothing to do with gender or sexuality, for example diy_pride_colors.

Furrin Gok

Member

Bit of an iffy situation. Technically, yes (I'm not certain where the -1s all came from) it is a pride, but it's one that people have a strong opinion on. If there's any tag that falls between the specific pride and the umbrella term to describe "Prides with a negative view" (stigmatized_pride_colors maybe?) the two tags could imply that and then that imply pride_colors.

spe

Admin

furrin_gok said:
Bit of an iffy situation. Technically, yes (I'm not certain where the -1s all came from) it is a pride, but it's one that people have a strong opinion on. If there's any tag that falls between the specific pride and the umbrella term to describe "Prides with a negative view" (stigmatized_pride_colors maybe?) the two tags could imply that and then that imply pride_colors.

Well, they all have a negative view in the eyes of certain people. That distinction seems a tad arbitrary.

Watsit

Privileged

electricitywolf said:
Maybe we should deimply lgbt_pride from pride_colors so we can have pride colors tags for things that have nothing to do with gender or sexuality, for example diy_pride_colors.

Or at least reverse the implication, since LGBT is a subset of things to have pride over, not the other way around (LGBT pride colors will always indicate pride colors, but not all pride colors are necessarily LGBT pride).