Topic: [APPROVED] Tag alias: maize -> corn

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

... Wait, that's what Americans mean when they talk about corn? Holy shit, "cornbread" as a distinction makes so much more sense now.

If we're going to have an alias, could we at least make it to the less ambiguous sweetcorn? (Which somebody has been tagging as the name of their character, apparently...)

wat8548 said:
If we're going to have an alias, could we at least make it to the less ambiguous sweetcorn? (Which somebody has been tagging as the name of their character, apparently...)

Do we really need separate tags for the different types of corn?

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scaliespe said:
Do we really need separate tags for the different types of corn?

as a midwesterner this is extremely important

votp said:
... Wait, that's what Americans mean when they talk about corn? Holy shit, "cornbread" as a distinction makes so much more sense now.

...What did you think Americans meant by "corn"?

deleuzian_cattery said:
...What did you think Americans meant by "corn"?

"Corn" used to mean just any sort of grain. Wheat, barley, oats.

Maize used to be called Indian corn in America, but the "Indian" qualifier got dropped somewhere in the mid 1800s.
The rest of the world still calls that plant maize, though. Which is why I disagree with this alias.

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deleuzian_cattery said:
...What did you think Americans meant by "corn"?

I thought due to the above (that's still used in British English by the way) that "corn" got mutated into "yellow" as all corn-XYZ products I've seen sold are always neon yellow, figured it got that way via corn (in the UK sense) crops being a vibrant golden yellow when ready for harvest. Bit like how banana, lemon, and straw are all used to refer to something being yellow, especially considering "cornbread" shares space with Brown Bread and White Bread.

votp said:
I thought due to the above (that's still used in British English by the way) that "corn" got mutated into "yellow" as all corn-XYZ products I've seen sold are always neon yellow, figured it got that way via corn (in the UK sense) crops being a vibrant golden yellow when ready for harvest. Bit like how banana, lemon, and straw are all used to refer to something being yellow, especially considering "cornbread" shares space with Brown Bread and White Bread.

Maize or corn) is indeed a color. Cornbread is so called as it's made from cornmeal, a course flour made from ground corn/maize.

Maize/corn originated in southern Mexico some 9000 years ago before spreading across the Americas. It didn't reach Europe until the Columbian exchange in the late 15th century and beyond when Spanish explorers brought it back home. It is generally called "corn" in the US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, being a shortening of "Indian corn". Outside of these four countries, maize is indeed sometimes referred to as corn, but only in a more limited culinary sense in which a qualifier of some sort is added — sweetcorn, popcorn, corn flakes, and so on. "Maize" is preferred in scientific, formal, and international usage because it refers specifically to the plant and its fruit instead of the multiple meanings of "corn".

I'd say this alias ought to be made, although it should be reversed, strange as the word may seem to American, Canadian, Australian, and New Zealander eyes. Maize is very specific in what it references compared to corn.

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