Topic: Tag Alias: missy -> missy_(artist)

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

1. When you use missy as an undefined tag (no artist: or character: prefix), it artist tags it by default. Ergo, people tagging a character as Missy ALREADY have to be careful to type character:Missy - this change does not affect that.
2. There's like fifty different characters named "Missy" (I'm in the process of cleaning up these misattributions to more correctly reflect it) - there's only one artist going by Missy.
4. People are uploading Missy's art to both Missy and Missy_(artist), splitting the functionality of the tag.
5. The rate of uploads to the character:missy tag is being overshadowed by the rate of uploads to artist:missy and artist:missy_(artist) over the past half year or so. Everything at the top when you search for missy is missy_(artist) stuff.

There absolutely should be a missy_(disambiguation) wiki page, but in terms of the raw usability of the site, this alias seems only logical at this point.

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Mavs said:
1. When you use missy as an undefined tag (no artist: or character: prefix), it artist tags it by default. Ergo, people tagging a character as Missy ALREADY have to be careful to type character:Missy - this change does not affect that.
2. There's like fifty different characters named "Missy" (I'm in the process of cleaning up these misattributions to more correctly reflect it) - there's only one artist going by Missy.
4. People are uploading Missy's art to both Missy and Missy_(artist), splitting the functionality of the tag.
5. The rate of uploads to the character:missy tag is being overshadowed by the rate of uploads to artist:missy and artist:missy_(artist) over the past half year or so. Everything at the top when you search for missy is missy_(artist) stuff.

There absolutely should be a missy_(disambiguation) wiki page, but in terms of the raw usability of the site, this alias seems only logical at this point.

You seem to misunderstand how our tagging system works. If somebody tags character:missy then the next person to tag missy will have a character tag. There is no longer a "General type" missy until somebody tags general:missy and every pre-existing tag missy gets changed to a general type. It'd be impossible to actually find anything if you had five tags that were the same word with different types.
Better to go for your final line and alias to missy_(disambiguation) instead.

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If you type "missy" in as a tag on something, currently it's yellow by default. This was labelling Missy as the artist on MANY works that she did not create. Ergo, when people tag something as just "missy" (nothing else, no artist: or character: or general:, just kind of adding tags to throw up the art) it ALREADY credits Missy_(artist) as the artist - but it does so in a way that ends up splitting Missy's art between two tags.

Given that there is only one Missy, and there is about fifty million characters named Missy, breaking people of the desire to just tag Missy-character-#23423 art as "missy" instead of the more appropriate "character:missy" or "character:missy_(owner)" would be nothing but a good thing for the organization of the website. Aliasing it, at this point, would just allow the two tags to merge. This change would NOT stop people from finding character:missy when they search for Missy, it would not make it "impossible" to find anything.

Aliasing anything to missy_(disambiguation) is cumbersome. Disambiguation is a tag descriptor best used for ONLY wiki articles, not art. The tag desperately needs cleaning up, but simply doing that WON'T stop people from misusing the tag in the future - this will, as it will become explicitly clear that a character named Missy MUST be tagged as such.

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Mavs said:
If you type "missy" in as a tag on something, currently it's yellow by default. This was labelling Missy as the artist on MANY works that she did not create. Ergo, when people tag something as just "missy" (nothing else, no artist: or character: or general:, just kind of adding tags to throw up the art) it ALREADY credits Missy_(artist) as the artist - but it does so in a way that ends up splitting Missy's art between two tags.

Given that there is only one Missy, and there is about fifty million characters named Missy, breaking people of the desire to just tag Missy-character-#23423 art as "missy" instead of the more appropriate "character:missy" or "character:missy_(owner)" would be nothing but a good thing for the organization of the website. Aliasing it, at this point, would just allow the two tags to merge. This change would NOT stop people from finding character:missy when they search for Missy, it would not make it "impossible" to find anything.

Aliasing anything to missy_(disambiguation) is cumbersome. Disambiguation is a tag descriptor best used for ONLY wiki articles, not art. The tag desperately needs cleaning up, but simply doing that WON'T stop people from misusing the tag in the future - this will, as it will become explicitly clear that a character named Missy MUST be tagged as such.

Again: character:missy is exactly the same tag as artist:missy. The only part of either of those that is a tag is missy. The artist: bit isn't part of a tag, it's a modifier to change the typing of the one tag. If you take a look at the wiki page for missy, you'll find that the tag type is whatever was used last. Currently, it's a character, but the moment somebody enters the modifier artist: it'll change every existing character tag missy to an artist tag missy. There is absolutely no difference.

Updated by anonymous

you cannot have character:missy and artist:missy at the same time since the both are just missy but in different color. the character:, artist:, and other prefixes are just "buttons" to choose what color this tag is.

Updated by anonymous

I understand the issue more fully now. I have created the missy_(disambiguation) page and am in the process of correctly tagging the characters as such in preparation for the alias. I will +1 the other alias suggestion thread at this time.

I appreciate the help, folks. My apologies if I came off a bit obtuse there.

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