Serperior09876 said:
*sigh*

I'm so disappointed in this thread. The amount of SJWs in this thread is just unbearable.

Of ALL the things you all have to worry about is...bullying? really? Not broken bones or what your going to be doing for the rest of your life? You chose to worry about """BULLYING"""? Seriously? Just simply ignore the """bullys""", THAT'S IT! This rhetoric is exactly why SJWs and feminazis ALWAYS get what they want. You want to fight a """bully"""? Than you be suppressing that """bullys""" freedom of speech, and that is bullying in it itself. Do you want to censor freedom of speech? Huh?

I'm sorry, this thread is HIGHLY stupid.

says an SJW...

"You want to fight a """bully"""? Than you be suppressing that """bullys""" freedom of speech, and that is bullying in it itself. Do you want to censor freedom of speech? Huh?"

so you want the victims of bullying to just sit there and take it? no, what they'd be suppressing is the bullies ability to abuse and harm them in numerous ways. something i guess your ok with.

"Just simply ignore the """bullys""", THAT'S IT!"

except...that's not it.

quick question: how many people in this thread who have spoken of their experiences can safely say that this generic advice either doesn't work or leads to things getting worse?

"This rhetoric is exactly why SJWs and feminazis ALWAYS get what they want."

so...how many are against changing things to satisfy and/or protect the feelings of others now? at least 20+ iirc.

i may have never been bullied but that doesn't mean i can't talk about it. word of advice: try learning about and showing empathy towards the suffering and misfortune of others. schadenfreude is nice and all but it doesn't really help anything (except maybe comedians who do slapstick).

Serperior09876 said:
*sigh*

I'm so disappointed in this thread. The amount of SJWs in this thread is just unbearable.

If you don't like it, don't read it. Problem solved. ;)

And that said, most of the people who have posted on this thread have been quite civil and quite unlike SJW's.

Of ALL the things you all have to worry about is...bullying? really? Not broken bones or what your going to be doing for the rest of your life? You chose to worry about """BULLYING"""? Seriously? Just simply ignore the """bullys""", THAT'S IT!

So if I ignore the guy who almost beats me to death in a public park because I supposedly "got him in trouble," or ignore the people who tortured me physically and psychologically for thirty plus years, or ignore the people who made it so I had to use a cane to walk with by the time I graduated from high school, everything will be hunky-dory and we'll all be singing Kumbaya around a campfire, is that it?

Funny how following that advice tends to make the bullying even worse than it already was to begin with.

This rhetoric is exactly why SJWs and feminazis ALWAYS get what they want. You want to fight a """bully"""? Than you be suppressing that """bullys""" freedom of speech, and that is bullying in it itself. Do you want to censor freedom of speech? Huh?

So in other words, if I believe in freedom of speech, I need to just stand there and let people be violent towards me because defending my own body from physical harm is somehow "censoring their freedom of speech?"

What are you smoking?

I'm sorry, this thread is HIGHLY stupid.

And yet you feel the driving need to add to it... >.>

Nuff said.

Serperior09876 said:
Rape? Now that's just FEMANIZI talk right there. It's their right of speech. You don't like it, than your censoring them. So don't. That simple.

I didn't say speech. I said rape. As in, physically forcing a person to engage in sex

Freedom of speech is more valuable than your entire physical body and your well being, as well as your mentality. I didn't say you have to like it, but i said you CANT just tell the bullies to stop, it's their right.

Kaminmatsu, i don't think you even understande what RAPE IS. Your one of those feminazis who shout "RAPE!" when in reality someone just said something lewd to you.

And it's that the people in this thread are ACTING like SJWs, they just simple have SJW views, like pro-censorship, pro-victimizing, ETC.

Oh, and i'm pretty sure i'm not a SJW. I'm the most anti-SJW person i've ever known.

Serperior09876 said:
*sigh*

I'm so disappointed in this thread. The amount of SJWs in this thread is just unbearable.

Of ALL the things you all have to worry about is...bullying? really? Not broken bones or what your going to be doing for the rest of your life? You chose to worry about """BULLYING"""? Seriously? Just simply ignore the """bullys""", THAT'S IT! This rhetoric is exactly why SJWs and feminazis ALWAYS get what they want. You want to fight a """bully"""? Than you be suppressing that """bullys""" freedom of speech, and that is bullying in it itself. Do you want to censor freedom of speech? Huh?

I'm sorry, this thread is HIGHLY stupid.

Please don't come into a bullying thread and start bullying.

Serperior09876 said:
Freedom of speech is more valuable than your entire physical body and your well being, as well as your mentality. I didn't say you have to like it, but i said you CANT just tell the bullies to stop, it's their right.

Kaminmatsu, i don't think you even understande what RAPE IS. Your one of those feminazis who shout "RAPE!" when in reality someone just said something lewd to you.

And it's that the people in this thread are ACTING like SJWs, they just simple have SJW views, like pro-censorship, pro-victimizing, ETC.

If that's the case, then it's my right to use self-defense to fend off any bully who tries to physically harm me, and it's also my right to tell them off and then just leave. But if they do try to hurt me, they're going to regret it, bullies need to grow the hell up.

-Anonymous- said:
Please don't come into a bullying thread and start bullying.

It's my right. Period.

Serperior09876 said:
It's my right. Period.

Site rules say otherwise.

fox_whisper85 said:
If that's the case, then it's my right to use self-defense to fend off any bully who tries to physically harm me, and it's also my right to tell them off and then just leave. But if they do try to hurt me, they're going to regret it, bullies need to grow the hell up.

You can't fight the bullys because you'd be suppressing THEIR rights: censorship. Freedom of speech is NOT a right to censor, it's the exact opposite of freedom of speech.

Serperior09876 said:
It's my right. Period.

No it isn't. Leave.

-Anonymous- said:
Site rules say otherwise.

Clearly you don't know the site rules.

Serperior09876 said:
You can't fight the bullys because you'd be suppressing THEIR rights: censorship. Freedom of speech is NOT a right to censor, it's the exact opposite of freedom of speech.

I have a right to defend myself if they pick a fight with me. If they don't like me defending myself, big effin deal. Who cares what they think? Sorry I don't have a Mahatma Gandhi attitude of passive resistance, but if a bully attacks me, I'm fighting back, to hell what they think.

What do want us to do, let them name-call us, beat us up and sit there and take it. Did you know psychological damage is worse than physical? Crazy, I know.

Serperior09876 said:
Clearly you don't know the site rules.

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fox_whisper85 said:
I have a right to defend myself if they pick a fight with me. If they don't like me defending myself, BFD. Who cares what they think? Sorry I don't have a Mahatma Gandhi attitude of passive resistance, but if a bully attacks me, I'm fighting back, to hell what they think.

*facepalm*

That's all you'll get out of me.

Serperior09876 said:
Well your going to have to, because freedom of speech (our great First Amendment and the UNs declaration and all) is more valuable than your feelings. Being bullied? Turn of your computer screen. That simple.

And don't even say that the "schools are being too soft on bullys" when in reality, SJWs and feminazis have control of our schools and are raising people to be a bunch of crybabies.

Again, this rhetoric is why we have so much censorship in this world, everybodies turning into a crybaby.

What the actual fuck am I reading?

So it is OK to just let someone harrash other even to the point of suicide because freedom of speech and censorship and everyone who is againts this is SJW and are creating crybabies?

No! We live in civil society, which your freedom of speech is also part of, meaning schools, workplaces and other places where people gather have some base level rules, they're not jungle or gang meetings. Even prisons have rules and guidelines if there's harrassing between prisoners!

I would seriously consider actually reading what the freedom of speech covers before going around saying stuff like this.

treos said:
quick question: how many people in this thread who have spoken of their experiences can safely say that this generic advice either doesn't work or leads to things getting worse?

Never ever just ignore bullying. If you are the party who is being bullied, it usually leads the bullying to magnify as we are talking about people you do see daily and they will want to see the reaction you give when you can't take it anymore and when that happens it usually just fuels it even more.

Serperior09876 said:
You can't fight the bullys because you'd be suppressing THEIR rights: censorship. Freedom of speech is NOT a right to censor, it's the exact opposite of freedom of speech.

No. There's also laws against harrashment. There's even cases of people getting fined for harrassing others trough social media.

You can still say stuff like that, but that doesn't mean you are free to not get the consequences from what you said.

Serperior09876 said:
*facepalm*

That's all you'll get out of me.

Whatever the hell are you spouting out from that frothing orifice you call a gob? You can't expect us to all be like Gandhi and just sit there taking verbal and physical abuse, that's just stupid.
It's their fault for picking a fight, I can do whatever I damn well please to defend myself against such foul human beings.

What kind of BS logic is this though? To sit there and take their abuse without standing up to them? That's a very pusillanimous attitude to maintain dude, I do what I want to defend myself, keep your pro-bully defending SJW agenda somewhere else.

Newsflash, ignoring bullying doesn't make it go away. I was bullied in jr. high and I finally got fed up with this larger dude, I punched him in the stomach and he got in trouble.

Mario69 said:
What the actual fuck am I reading?

So it is OK to just let someone harrash other even to the point of suicide because freedom of speech and censorship and everyone who is againts this is SJW and are creating crybabies?

No! We live in civil society, which your freedom of speech is also part of, meaning schools, workplaces and other places where people gather have some base level rules, they're not jungle or gang meetings. Even prisons have rules and guidelines if there's harrassing between prisoners!

I would seriously consider actually reading what the freedom of speech covers before going around saying stuff like this.

Never ever just ignore bullying. If you are the party who is being bullied, it usually leads the bullying to magnify as we are talking about people you do see daily and they will want to see the reaction you give when you can't take it anymore and when that happens it usually just fuels it even more.

No. There's also laws against harrashment. There's even cases of people getting fined for harrassing others trough social media.

You can still say stuff like that, but that doesn't mean you are free to not get the consequences from what you said.

It's official! We live in a PC, SJW world folks!

Serperior09876 said:
It's official! We live in a PC, SJW world folks!

Leave. Final warning.

I defend myself against stupid insufferable bullies, that's my right.

I am not a sjw. Period.

Freedom of Speech

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Point to where it allows someone to be an ass and not get punted when on a privately owned website, or where it allows people to harass each other with no redress.

Random said:
Point to where it allows someone to be an ass and not get punted when on a privately owned website, or where it allows people to harass each other with no redress.

Know Your Meme says otherwise.

Serperior09876 said:
Know Your Meme says otherwise.

Waiting.

Serperior09876 said:
Know Your Meme says otherwise.

Take a vacation. Thanks.

geez... o.O i leave to watch stuff on youtube for a couple hours and return to see things went downhill in this thread quite fast.

well, shit happens i suppose. >.>

treos said:
geez... o.O i leave to watch stuff on youtube for a couple hours and return to see things went downhill in this thread quite fast.

well, shit happens i suppose. >.>

It's dealt with now. We can move on.

BlueDingo said:
It's dealt with now. We can move on.

Yay!

It's kinda ironic that a troll comes to a bullying thread and starts to bully people with "Knowledge of his rights".

Guess that kinda shows that he has the right to stfu.

Serperior09876 said:
Freedom of speech is more valuable than your entire physical body and your well being, as well as your mentality. I didn't say you have to like it, but i said you CANT just tell the bullies to stop, it's their right.

Kaminmatsu, i don't think you even understande what RAPE IS. Your one of those feminazis who shout "RAPE!" when in reality someone just said something lewd to you.

And it's that the people in this thread are ACTING like SJWs, they just simple have SJW views, like pro-censorship, pro-victimizing, ETC.

post #666665

What in the bloody shit did I just read?

There is so much fucking wrong with this. You're saying a rapist is allowed to rape because he has freedom of speech?
I don't have enough alcohol in my apartment to even try and process this.

Why is it that every argument on the Internet recently seems to devolve into "You're a SJW!", "No, YOU'RE a SJW!"?

And people seem to wonder why I consider the term meaningless.

I was homeschooled, so I didn't have to deal with much bullying. The only consistent bully I had was in Sunday School. Yep,the only time I was bullied was at church. I used to have this really nice shirt I liked to wear, and it was pink with little green stripes. Then a kid in my grade section started poking me each week and he'd say, "pink poke" as he'd do it. When I look back on it, I am amazed at how much of an idiot I was for not wearing a different shirt, and I am amazed at how terrible that kid's bullying skills were. I mean seriously, pink poke? Really? Lol.

Okay to reiterate my encounter with a douche in junior high. I won't use his full name, but his first was Dan, he always acted tough, had his little personal sycophant with him, and always carried a bottle of Mountain Dew whenever I saw him. Well, he would not only talk down to me, but he would "fake" strangle me, teasingly but not to actually harm me. However, it kept happening a couple more times, I was getting more and more pissed, and when I was fed up, I just nailed him hard in the stomach, despite him being bigger than me (taller and fatter). Luckily, some friends of mine (who are still friends with me 16 years later), witnessed the whole thing of him "strangling" me (again, it was merely wrapping his hands around me and shaking me in teasing manner. Well, the principal found out at last. He got in deep shit and never spoke to me or encountered me throughout the rest of my education. Yeah, I fought back, and he was the one that got in trouble. Fat bastard.

I don't know how this got into free speech, but my two cents is just that you have to pick your battles. Defending yourself is important, but I also get some of the previous things said about cyberbullying.
Specifically, if the harasser is actually someone who you will have to deal with in a regular way I totally agree that taking a stand might be the best option, but why do people pick fights on e621 or in the comments of literally any semi-anonymous website? You've got trolls having a laugh, and people wasting their energy on responding.
I'd say if the threat can be ignored, do so. The aggressor will look like a spastic asshole if they do bother to persist, and honestly responding is just giving them their fun.

soanon said:
I don't know how this got into free speech, but my two cents is just that you have to pick your battles. Defending yourself is important, but I also get some of the previous things said about cyberbullying.
Specifically, if the harasser is actually someone who you will have to deal with in a regular way I totally agree that taking a stand might be the best option, but why do people pick fights on e621 or in the comments of literally any semi-anonymous website? You've got trolls having a laugh, and people wasting their energy on responding.
I'd say if the threat can be ignored, do so. The aggressor will look like a spastic asshole if they do bother to persist, and honestly responding is just giving them their fun.

Because the Internet isn't like it used to be. You can't really tell the difference between people who legitimately don't know the difference or people who just play dumb. I present the dumbass above as exhibit A.

While you are correct about ignoring them, it's hard-wired into most of us to react. Western Culture should be renamed to Reactive Culture for this reason.

Clawdragons said:
Why is it that every argument on the Internet recently seems to devolve into "You're a SJW!", "No, YOU'RE a SJW!"?

And people seem to wonder why I consider the term meaningless.

It has a specific meaning, but it's often used incorrectly. Kind of like how kids will say "that's so gay" when they ought to be saying lame/stupid/bad.

JAKXXX3 said:
It has a specific meaning, but it's often used incorrectly. Kind of like how kids will say "that's so gay" when they ought to be saying lame/stupid/bad.

hello world of warcraft. ಠ_ಠ can't say i regret leaving that game behind.