ohsecsex said:
your definition of meme ship is "ship created and popularized on the internet"? that's nice, but most people use the term to mean a ship that is rarely taken seriously, synonymous with joke ship. the same way a funny image on the internet is a meme now, even if it hasn't yet undergone memetic mutation.

shipping is a branch of what-iffery, and I think the same rules that are generally used to judge the coherence of a what-if concept applies to shipping. it is a spectrum, but I think pretty much any ship where you have to make rationalizations too numerous or too large that the characters and/or their world are no longer coherent to the source material is a some level of crack ship.

that isn't to say that a story is bad, necessarily. just that the work needs to justify itself pretty hard. and, even then, externally, I think you still ought to recognize the ridiculosity.

dba_afish said:
... I think pretty much any ship where you have to make rationalizations too numerous or too large that the characters and/or their world are no longer coherent to the source material is a some level of crack ship.

I think that pretty much describes all crossover ships. I can grant you that MordeTwi, the pairing, can be considered a "meme" in a Dawkinsian sense. But like ohsecsex said, "meme ship" usually describes something like Shrek x Shadow, which is not what MordeTwi was. Context matters, and I think that determines whether a ship is "crack" or not.

even then, externally, I think you still ought to recognize the ridiculosity.

MordeTwi is not ridiculous, let's be real. IMO, people just don't realize or make sense of how MordeTwi could work theoretically, and are too quick to dismiss it as Crack.

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