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Score: 17
User: Alm-Pe
Date: March 07, 2017 ↑17 ♥33 C6 S

This is so awesome!

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Asriel is just too precious for this world.

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"Prolapse anus"

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Pyrocynical_-Fake- said:
"Prolapse anus"

I'm contacting the goverment.

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But are you a bad enough dude to save the Underground?

kamimatsu said:
But are you a bad enough dude to save the Underground?

From ninjas?

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Rating: Safe
Score: 47
User: ArchwayJoans
Date: September 19, 2017 ↑47 ♥79 C22 S
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ladeeda said:
The thing is, those children died in a technically sovereign state as the authorities have no jurisdiction over the Underground, only the Royal Monster Family does. It may have been a while, but after everything that has happened and considering the circumstances as far as why those children would willingly walk up that mountain (even after hearing about legends about people disappearing and never returning), one would assume that those children were likely running away from something and likely WANTED to disappear. Not only that, but those children all wanted to leave, and to leave they HAVE to kill either Toriel or Asgore (obviously the latter since they all passed Toriel with little issue.) While there is a warrant for their deaths, if they truly wanted to leave, they would HAVE to confront and kill the KING of all monsters, and I'm sure that no monster outside of the Ruins would take that lying down. Asgore only fights you if you WILLINGLY go to him to fight. He will stall for as long as possible; any excuse to avoid conflict is acceptable no matter how small. They could live for as long as they wanted down there so long as they didn't directly confront him (whether they all did or not is up to interpretation).

Ultimately, I feel like he couldn't be put on trial specifically for those reasons stated above. There was basically nothing anyone could do. The children made their choice to climb that mountain to a place where it is known that people never return from, the monsters were desperate to leave the underground after being wrongly imprisoned there for so long, and Asgore does all he can to avoid any further conflict with Humans after his declaration unless they try to confront him directly. He may be responsible for their deaths (as far as we know anyways), but the children's guardians are far more likely to be responsible for letting their children enter into such a forbidden area in the first place.

There's also the fact that some of the items previously held by humans were dusty, implying that some of them had killed monsters. Whether out of self-defense or actual malicious intent, that would not help out their situation with the monster's stance on Humans.

Also, in the unlikely event that Asgore was tried, I'm pretty sure that eventually Toriel would get caught up in this since she was there last caretaker until they went outside the Ruins where they would very likely be killed and have their SOUL taken. She may have cared for those kids, but she did let them leave without protecting them or trying to persuade Asgore out of his decision as she was still Queen of the Underground and had the authority to and power to stop him but did nothing, which puts her at fault. She may have felt otherwise, but her actions meant she was condoning their deaths.
Even if somehow she got off scotch-free and Asgore didn't, it would be in her best interests to make sure that he isn't put away for good or executed since all the monsters would immediately turn on her for not having any consequences and not assisting the monsters. Since Asgore is the only one monsters would fully trust being their leader for so long, her past influence as Queen would hold little value and it would end similarly to the exiled queen ending.

K4RN4GE911 said:
May I respectfully interject?

The coffin was indeed for Chara, as their name is inscribed on the thing. You find the wrappings at the bottom of the coffin because you find out in the Genocide route that when Toriel left, she took Chara's body with her for a proper burial in the garden of her old home. That's why Chara is able to posses Frisk in the first place and that's why the game leading you to think that the coffin is for Frisk themselves is an amazing twist.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH.....That's how that happened. That's the one bit I didn't understand. Thanks. :)

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LoveSigil said:
Except for the serial child murdering thing...

Plot twist, he's going to finish the job.

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That one thing is what makes me mad at Toriel. Asgore was in a completely untenable position. He didn't want to hurt anyone, but human souls were their way out, so he had the choice -- either give up on escape for all his people, kill nobody, and the kids would still be trapped in the underground for their whole lives... or take the first soul, breach the barrier, and be exactly what humanity thinks monsters are. So he chose neither, fighting only humans who came to him and chose to risk their lives in the attempt to escape the underground. And for that, Toriel rips into him? I notice SHE didn't take a soul and go murder six humans...

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Escher said:
That one thing is what makes me mad at Toriel. Asgore was in a completely untenable position. He didn't want to hurt anyone, but human souls were their way out, so he had the choice -- either give up on escape for all his people, kill nobody, and the kids would still be trapped in the underground for their whole lives... or take the first soul, breach the barrier, and be exactly what humanity thinks monsters are. So he chose neither, fighting only humans who came to him and chose to risk their lives in the attempt to escape the underground. And for that, Toriel rips into him? I notice SHE didn't take a soul and go murder six humans...

While I do agree with everything you said, you gotta admit that she does have a point. Centuries have passed since the monsters were all forced underground and they've been there for all that time. While Asgore more than likely got the souls over the course of those hundreds of years, who knows how long he's had all six. While Asgore tried his best to appease his subjects as king - and he did a pretty noble job of it - he still left them all in a state of limbo by keeping their hopes up. It might have been the better thing to do, but I do agree a bit with Toriel in this case.

LoveSigil said:
Except for the serial child murdering thing...

Well nobodies perfect.

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Rating: Safe
Score: 4
User: Daneasaur
Date: June 27, 2016 ↑4 ♥19 C2 S

wow and cool ! more naga please!

p.s. monster rancher centaur,celious,and dragoon? please!

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Score: 1
User: Kellion
Date: September 10, 2017 ↑1 ♥7 C2 S

wow and cool!

p.s. monster rancher centaur,celious,and dragoon? please!

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Score: 9
User: Millcore
Date: September 22, 2017 ↑9 ♥11 C2 S

somehow I find this very appropriate