Topic: "Queerphobia" implications.

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #11721 is pending approval.

create implication homophobia (286) -> queerphobia (0)
create implication biphobia (1) -> queerphobia (0)
create implication transphobia (99) -> queerphobia (0)

Reason: For purposes like combining gender/sexuality phobias, and providing an umbrella for more specific queerphobias that might not otherwise get a tag with only one or two examples (demi-, sapio-, etc.?)
Should be usable for the broadest searching/blacklisting purposes, and advanced users could find/exclude posts by doing some combination like queerphobia -homophobia -biphobia -transphobia -etc.

Further considerations:

  • both "aphobia" and "acephobia" exist as tags, with the latter having 0 examples but seeming like the less ambiguous word. Would there be any need for an "aromantic" equivalent? Would both imply "aphobia"?
  • Is a phobia towards intersex characters ("interphobia"?) something that exists or could exist on this imageboard? Panphobia too?

lafcadio said:

  • both "aphobia" and "acephobia" exist as tags, with the latter having 0 examples but seeming like the less ambiguous word. Would there be any need for an "aromantic" equivalent? Would both imply "aphobia"?

Aphobia ("without" + "fear") would be too ambiguous as it also means "fearlessness" or "lack of fear".

'Aphobia' is the term you'll see most often in discussions of anti-asexual sentiment, but yeah, in this context it might be too vague or unclear. Acephobia is a term that pops up enough I don't think it's incorrect.

'Intersexism' is the term I've seen used for discrimination and hate towards intersex people. I don't think it'd go under 'queerphobia' though.

This seems like such an oddly specific "in-group" tag and I don't think it'd otherwise get much use outside of implications- and while that's OK for species and copyright tags, I don't think it's good for a general use tag. To answer your questions:

- I agree with Clawstripe that "aphobia" is too ambiguous. And as per "acephobia," what's the point in a tag that's not being used?
- I guess that depends on whether or not you'd consider intersex to fall under the "queer" umbrella, which to my understanding is a bit of a divided subject. Personally I'd say it doesn't fall there for the purposes of that tag as it's different in nature to homophobia and the like.

Updated

Good points re: intersexes. If somebody is willing to provide examples of that, I'd happily sponsor a intersexism -> sexism implication instead.

mklxiv said:
This seems like such an oddly specific "in-group" tag and I don't think it'd otherwise get much use outside of implications- and while that's OK for species and copyright tags, I don't think it's good for a general use tag. To answer your questions:

- I agree with Clawstripe that "aphobia" is too ambiguous. And as per "acephobia," what's the point in a tag that's not being used?
- I guess that depends on whether or not you'd consider intersex to fall under the "queer" umbrella, which to my understanding is a bit of a divided subject. Personally I'd say it doesn't fall there for the purposes of that tag as it's different in nature to homophobia and the like.

aphobia actually does have a single use right now: post #1550419, so if the consensus is that "acephobia" is less vague despite not having any currently active posts then we'd simply replace "aphobia".
There's also obvious opportunities related to corrective rape, where a character who does not experience a certain kind of attraction is assaulted in the interest of generating that kind of attraction. I haven't found any examples of ace corrective rape, but it seems like a natural enough leap of logic to me.

lafcadio said:
Good points re: intersexes. If somebody is willing to provide examples of that, I'd happily sponsor a intersexism -> sexism implication instead.

aphobia actually does have a single use right now: post #1550419, so if the consensus is that "acephobia" is less vague despite not having any currently active posts then we'd simply replace "aphobia".
There's also obvious opportunities related to corrective rape, where a character who does not experience a certain kind of attraction is assaulted in the interest of generating that kind of attraction. I haven't found any examples of ace corrective rape, but it seems like a natural enough leap of logic to me.

I've seen a decent amount of anti-asexual art back when that was the hot trend on tumblr. think there's a few big reasons that aphobia art isn't common here. The biggest is that it's just mean-spirited art with little appeal outside of that. Then on top of that, explicit aphobia (as opposed to passive background stuff) is a bit more niche and the sorts of people who post transphobic/homophobic art/memes here are unlikely to be versed in queer discourse enough to encounter it.

lafcadio said:
Good points re: intersexes. If somebody is willing to provide examples of that, I'd happily sponsor a intersexism -> sexism implication instead.

This makes way more sense categorically, that would be nice. Especially since intersex has to do with sex and not gender or sexuality.

lafcadio said:
aphobia actually does have a single use right now: post #1550419, so if the consensus is that "acephobia" is less vague despite not having any currently active posts then we'd simply replace "aphobia".

Also a good call.

Also, as I'm wildly outnumbered with this BUR, I'd at least suggest that what counts as a specific *phobia to be very explicitly defined to avoid the problems stemming from Random (BlueSky/Twitter/Tumblr) User No. 23,498,376 declaring (random thing) as Newly Declared *phobic Thing of the Week and polluting the tags as people jump on the trend. Lots of times people on social media declare things as hateful for clout that really aren't (and get a lot of attention and approval for doing so), for example people were calling "femboy" transphobic and it's not even the same thing. That type of behavior is also often not from someone part of the group that's supposedly offended. Making a clear, narrow definition would mitigate that, albeit not entirely- but something is better than nothing.