Topic: Request: Black Thumbnails Fix

Posted under Site Bug Reports & Feature Requests

I find it really annoying looking up videos and not immediately knowing what I'm clicking on because the thumbnails are often pitch black which ofc gives zero info. It's often due to videos often having fade-in intros or a simple mistake the first frame isn't rendered so it's pitch black.

So I want request a different thumbnail system. In the case where a thumbnail is pitch black or near black, or is just a bad thumbnail in general, moderators (or users with special perms) should be able to change the thumbnail to an image of a different timestamp so that it's more representative of the video. Would make for a much better overall experience on the site imo. Well, it could be argued that if implemented, it'd be fine to even let all users be able to change thumbnails.

I think black thumbnails really punish the artists as well and may deter people from clicking the videos or rewatching them as it's confusing to find out which is which when so many have black thumbnails. A lot of artists' livelihoods depend on earnings from animations and the inability to customize thumbnails harms their views and the attention their art might get.

Another suggestion I have is the ability to enable labels with titles for videos. Just a simple label underneath with the title of the animation, can be turned on or off in settings.

I don't know anything about the technical side of things and how feasible it would be to implement these features. Take these just as complaints/ideas.

destroyedlabel said:
I find it really annoying looking up videos and not immediately knowing what I'm clicking on because the thumbnails are often pitch black which ofc gives zero info. It's often due to videos often having fade-in intros or a simple mistake the first frame isn't rendered so it's pitch black.

So I want request a different thumbnail system. In the case where a thumbnail is pitch black or near black, or is just a bad thumbnail in general, moderators (or users with special perms) should be able to change the thumbnail to an image of a different timestamp so that it's more representative of the video. Would make for a much better overall experience on the site imo. Well, it could be argued that if implemented, it'd be fine to even let all users be able to change thumbnails.

I think black thumbnails really punish the artists as well and may deter people from clicking the videos or rewatching them as it's confusing to find out which is which when so many have black thumbnails. A lot of artists' livelihoods depend on earnings from animations and the inability to customize thumbnails harms their views and the attention their art might get.

Another suggestion I have is the ability to enable labels with titles for videos. Just a simple label underneath with the title of the animation, can be turned on or off in settings.

I don't know anything about the technical side of things and how feasible it would be to implement these features. Take these just as complaints/ideas.

See topic #17849 & topic #38957.
Allowing custom thumbnails (that are not tied to any existing frames in the video) would open up all sort of trouble from uploaders posting misleading_thumbnails for views and give extra work to janitors who would need to vet the thumbnails separately.
As for allowing mods or users to change the thumbnail after generation, it will be something up to the site developer to consider.

Otherwise, the only practical thing a user can do now is to install RE621, which apparently allows you to preview the video straight from the thumbnail.

thegreatwolfgang said:
See topic #17849 & topic #38957.
Allowing custom thumbnails (that are not tied to any existing frames in the video) would open up all sort of trouble from uploaders posting misleading_thumbnails for views and give extra work to janitors who would need to vet the thumbnails separately.
As for allowing mods or users to change the thumbnail after generation, it will be something up to the site developer to consider.

Otherwise, the only practical thing a user can do now is to install RE621, which apparently allows you to preview the video straight from the thumbnail.

Well, since misleading thumbnails would be such a potential problem, I have a solution.
Limit people to only be able to change the timestamp that the thumbnail is generated from.

Donovan DMC

Former Staff

destroyedlabel said:
Well, since misleading thumbnails would be such a potential problem, I have a solution.
Limit people to only be able to change the timestamp that the thumbnail is generated from.

Most people (including staff) do not have the ability or simply do not want to find out exactly what number the frame they want to use is (or calculate the timestamp within ~10 milliseconds)
Not to mention that it really still doesn't solve the misleading thumbnails problem

Also an FYI: I have done this myself in my own fork of e6, it's very finicky and easy to break (like I just noticed when thinking about it, it's currently broken)
I also made it have to be within the first 10% of frames if the video has more than 1000 frames because it takes significantly longer the further out the frame selected is

That feature will also likely be tossed to the curb if the site gets any bigger than the current handfull of users it has due to how finicky it is to maintain, and how little it really helps

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