The tag alias #76934 canine -> canid is pending approval.

Reason: HEAR ME OUT.
Canid is a tag that includes canine, fantasy creatures, and a couple extinct species. Fantasy creatures are probably more frequently tagged canine- compare the page counts for pokemon canid -canine to pokemon canine. Canid -canine has very very few of the extinct species (all extant canids are canines) and a lot of hybrids, generic wolfoxdogs (which also get tagged canine), and fantasy species. Because fantasy and generic species get tagged both canid and canine there isn't much utility for this search.

And yes, this also likely applies to other family tags like felid/feline or equid/equine but before putting in the work for those I wanted to see if there'd be support for this.

FWIW in my own projects I have aliased canine to canid because I see no use for the separation, but I've also aliased many other more specific taxonomy tags in said projects

You should probably make a overall discussion thread on whether we want to maintain the traditional veterinary/genomic leaning species hierarchy we already have or propose a alternate system before throwing any individual aliases around dealing with whole valid animal kingdoms, classes, families, and realms.

Do not try skipping preparations and taking shortcuts that have the potential to literally break the site or impair search functionality given how much stuff is attached to just these 2 tags.

ryu_deacon said:
You should probably make a overall discussion thread on whether we want to maintain the traditional veterinary/genomic leaning species hierarchy we already have or propose a alternate system before throwing any individual aliases around dealing with whole valid animal kingdoms, classes, families, and realms.

Do not try skipping preparations and taking shortcuts that have the potential to literally break the site or impair search functionality given how much stuff is attached to just these 2 tags.

This IS a forum thread for the discussion of if we want to keep these sorts of tags that serve no purpose beyond reflecting real-world taxonomy.

As for breaking the site- an alias request will also move the implications. The worst that'll happen is people blacklisting 'canine' will stop seeing generic wolfoxdogs and arcanines.

ryu_deacon said:
You should probably make a overall discussion thread on whether we want to maintain the traditional veterinary/genomic leaning species hierarchy we already have or propose a alternate system before throwing any individual aliases around dealing with whole valid animal kingdoms, classes, families, and realms.

Do not try skipping preparations and taking shortcuts that have the potential to literally break the site or impair search functionality given how much stuff is attached to just these 2 tags.

A BUR should not be used here, else you'd need to remove each and every alias and implication then recreate them later

I'm iffy because not all canids are canines. Like if something is a Borophagine or Hesperocyonin, it shouldn't have the canine tag
But that is admittedly splitting hairs

nin10dope said:
I'm iffy because not all canids are canines. Like if something is a Borophagine or Hesperocyonin, it shouldn't have the canine tag
But that is admittedly splitting hairs

Yeah that's why the alias is to push everything into canid.

regsmutt said:
Yeah that's why the alias is to push everything into canid.

I'm sad there's no Philotrox characters
But there's literally no artistic imagining of it, it just has a cool name

Yeah after thinking for a bit, I'm for it. Practicality > Semantics

regsmutt said:
And yes, this also likely applies to other family tags like felid/feline or equid/equine but before putting in the work for those I wanted to see if there'd be support for this.

The situation of canid/canine is not comparable to felid/feline, since the former does not have an equivalent to pantherine splitting the umbrella in two approximately equal halves of popularity. It might be better to consider how "taxonomical" each group needs to be case by case.

gattonero2001 said:
The situation of canid/canine is not comparable to felid/feline, since the former does not have an equivalent to pantherine splitting the umbrella in two approximately equal halves of popularity. It might be better to consider how "taxonomical" each group needs to be case by case.

That's fair enough. Part of the work of making similar aliases is looking at wikis and testing different search term combinations to see if there are significant splits or differences in use.