The tag alias #76823 playing_with_self -> masturbation is pending approval.

Reason: Same meaning when a character touches or rubs their own sex organs for pleasure.

I'm curious on why people are saying no, because playing with yourself is a widespread colloquialism for masturbation

nin10dope said:
I'm curious on why people are saying no, because playing with yourself is a widespread colloquialism for masturbation

I mostly 😐'd it cause there's a few posts where self_fondle should be tagged instead and that has potential for mistags later down the line

Also not sure what to do about cases like post #2969780 where neither tag is really appropriate; either way with only 40 posts it's not a very useful tag

vitreousvice said:
I mostly 😐'd it cause there's a few posts where self_fondle should be tagged instead and that has potential for mistags later down the line

Also not sure what to do about cases like post #2969780 where neither tag is really appropriate; either way with only 40 posts it's not a very useful tag

For those cases you just remove the tag
And it not being very useful is a good reason to alias it to something else, so as to get rid of it

Actually, bringing up self_fondle is a good move
Because its wiki is barebones and not descriptive enough to justify it being different from masturbation
If anything, self_fondle should imply masturbation since fondling your own sexual organs, as the wiki defines the tag, is masturbation

nin10dope said:
Actually, bringing up self_fondle is a good move
Because its wiki is barebones and not descriptive enough to justify it being different from masturbation
If anything, self_fondle should imply masturbation since fondling your own sexual organs, as the wiki defines the tag, is masturbation

Well, we don't have any breast/ball masturbation tags and I wouldn't consider it as such unless it's clear the character's intending to reach orgasm but that's rarely the case when used in isolation.

Would aliasing this tag to self_fondle be warranted? They do seem to be extremely similar.

beholding said:
Would aliasing this tag to self_fondle be warranted? They do seem to be extremely similar.

I think this tag should just be manually replaced with a more appropriate one on a case-by-case basis. Not every tag needs to be aliased, especially one with so few posts that could be considered too vague to have any specific purpose.

vitreousvice said:
I think this tag should just be manually replaced with a more appropriate one on a case-by-case basis. Not every tag needs to be aliased, especially one with so few posts that could be considered too vague to have any specific purpose.

So... disambiguation.

ruppari said:
So... disambiguation.

Maybe if it were a problematic tag but I don't think that's the case here

vitreousvice said:
intending to reach orgasm

This is a common misconception about masturbation. Climax is not necessary or required for masturbation to be considered

nin10dope said:
This is a common misconception about masturbation. Climax is not necessary or required for masturbation to be considered

I'm simply trying to say that self-fondling and masturbation are considered separate concepts, and this tag could insinuate either. Aliasing it to masturbation likely won't stop people from using it when the former tag should be used instead, thereby potentially creating a bigger problem than the one it's causing now, which frankly isn't much of one to begin with.

I'd rather just stab this hydra in the heart myself than let it grow more heads

vitreousvice said:
I'm simply trying to say that self-fondling and masturbation are considered separate concepts, and this tag could insinuate either. Aliasing it to masturbation likely won't stop people from using it when the former tag should be used instead, thereby potentially creating a bigger problem than the one it's causing now, which frankly isn't much of one to begin with.

I'd rather just stab this hydra in the heart myself than let it grow more heads

Your suggestion of manually cleaning the tag on every single post containing it is definitely not stabbing the hydra's heart lol
That would actually be chopping heads off