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Just came across the fatal tag, and I'm unclear how it differs from imminent_death. The description is simply,
Use this tag whenever something happens to a character that will cause their death.
Is this description not also applicable to imminent_death?
beholding said:
Just came across the fatal tag, and I'm unclear how it differs from imminent_death. The description is simply,
Is this description not also applicable to imminent_death?
it seems to me that fatal is more about a thing/situation that may kill someone, while imminent_death is for if a character will die but hasn't yet.
so, yeah that is a little confusing, isn't it? I may even be wrong because the wiki's for those pages are very bad.
Fatal is literal imminent_death
But imminent_death can be foreshadowing
No idea if they should be kept separate cuz foreshadowing can definitely be TWYS friendly
You use fatal for when the character is fatally injured (i.e., fatal_wound) or circumstance made it so that they are "already dead" with no hopes of surviving (e.g., screwing around with the demon_core and being exposed to lethal doses of radiation). May involve dying or death.
You use imminent_death when the character is placed in a scenario where they are in imminent threat of dying, but are perfectly fine for the time being. Does not involve dying or death.
thegreatwolfgang said:
"already dead"
Omae wa mou shindeiru
beholding said:
Just came across the fatal tag, and I'm unclear how it differs from imminent_death. The description is simply,
Is this description not also applicable to imminent_death?
If we directly compare the exact wording from the wiki page you linked about what tags to use when death is a subject:
Fatal - "Use this tag whenever something happens to a character that will cause their death." The wording is clear that the image should actively be depicting something happening that will 100% cause death. An example of this would be the moment a guillotine decapitates someone.
imminent death - "A character is in a situation where they will most likely die." The wording makes Imminent Death closer to, yet still distinct from peril (wherein non-lethal grievous bodily harm is likely, but death is still a possibility). An example of this would be if someone is secured in a guillotine and the blade is ready to drop. death is a near certainty, but there's still a marginal chance of rescue/survival/escape.
The difference is ultimately that fatal is 100% the character will die, and imminent death hasn't yet passed beyond the 99.9̅% the character will die.
death - "A character is no longer living." The wording is clear that a character very obviously has died. An example is a depiction of corpses in a morgue.
dying - "A character is succumbing to death." The wording is clear that a character is actively dying. An example of this would be depiction of someone who's obviously unconscious and is suffering electrocution.
fatal wound - "A character is wounded so severely that they will certainly die." The word "Wound" is key. There must be a wound that is lethal. As an example, sans-decapitation Seppuku comes to mind.
killing - "The depiction of a character being killed." The wording specifies that we see a character being killed. There are more examples than I can think of, but, the easiest is an execution scene where you witness the executioner conducting the fatal action. (Murder was aliased to killing)
snuff - "A character derives sexual pleasure from death." The wording is clear that sexual pleasure is an element. An example would be a character masturbating to someone that was hanged to death.
nin10dope said:
Omae wa mou shindeiru
何?
