Topic: [REJECTED] Tag alias: marine_reptile -> marine

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The tag alias #76068 marine_reptile -> marine has been rejected.

Reason: This tag seems to try to be used as a catch-all for mosasaurs, ichthyosaurs, and plesiosaurs - as the term is often used to group those. But given the term is pretty nonspecific and can mean literally any aquatic reptile, it brings extremely little to the table. Nothing that searching for marine reptile can't do.

EDIT: The tag alias marine_reptile -> marine (forum #445133) has been rejected by @Bugabond.

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Ruppari

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If searching marine + reptile accomplished same results as searching for marine_reptile, the following search should return very little results.
marine reptile -marine_reptile
There is closer ten thousand results of images where both marine and reptile applies, but does not have what would fall under the marine reptile tag (there are some missing marine_reptile tag, but majority of them is images featuring both marine creatures and non-marine reptiles). You cannot accomplish same with searching marine + reptiles. Only way to look up marine reptiles would to line up all marine reptile species in the search.

rupikonna said:
Only way to look up marine reptiles would to line up all marine reptile species in the search.

And I think that's perfectly acceptable, actually? The results coming back in the thousands is indeed partially due to the fact that you get results from multi-character posts where the reptile and the marine are separate, but also largely... well, due to the fact the marine_reptile tag has 7 posts, and is underutilized. Interestingly enough, actually looking through the posts this search shows I see far less false positives than I expected. It also depends on what definition of the term you're trying to use.

We don't tag other marine critters separately on this granular level, and as I said - the tag itself can have several meanings, none of which are really necessary in my eyes. I don't see an actual purpose of grouping unrelated extinct marine reptiles together, nor do I see a reason to group all marine reptiles together either.

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bugabond said:
And I think that's perfectly acceptable, actually? The results coming back in the thousands is indeed partially due to the fact that you get results from multi-character posts where the reptile and the marine are separate, but also largely... well, due to the fact the marine_reptile tag has 7 posts, and is underutilized.

We don't tag other marine critters separately on this granular level, and as I said - the tag itself can have several meanings, none of which are really necessary in my eyes.

I think implying most common and broad relevant species to marine reptile would be better than just aliasing it away. We have already do have some pretty vague tags for categorizing the more informal animal groupings (for example feathered scalie).

rupikonna said:
I think implying most common and broad relevant species to marine reptile would be better than just aliasing it away. We have already do have some pretty vague tags for categorizing the more informal animal groupings (for example feathered scalie).

I see what you mean, and I don't terribly disagree, though after looking through shrimp and having searches disrupted with horrendously undertagged furred_dragon posts, I have a pretty heavy dislike for non-taxonomic tags. If the consensus is that this tag should instead be embraced, I won't oppose it, but I'm not terribly eager to embrace it either.

I'm mainly coming from a POV of someone who just cannot imagine a usecase where you want to search for exclusively marine reptiles, but on the other hand it's not the first and not the last tag I'd never use that other poeple might find useful.