If my friend's e621 account is disabled,can I upload his artwork?

wheou6677 said:
If my friend's e621 account is disabled,can I upload his artwork?

As long as he's not DNP (or it aligns with any CDNP rules they've asked for), yes, you or anyone else can.

watsit said:
He can't if he's banned, he won't have a usable account unless he's ban evading. But anyone else can upload his art as long as he's not DNP (or it aligns with any CDNP rules they've asked for).

Thank you for your guidance(*^o^）

wheou6677 said:
If my friend's e621 account is disabled,can I upload his artwork?

It really depends. Who is the banned user in question?

As a bit of fair warning first, if the user in question was either banned for Posting Abuse (either temporarily or permanently) or is somehow quota limited (i.e., having <0 for their upload limit), you posting on their behalf is considered Circumventing Site Restrictions or Suspensions and will get you permabanned.

If they have never interacted with the site as an artist and only got banned for unrelated reasons (i.e., not due to being an underaged artist, posting illegal material, etc.), their artwork may be posted provided that they also have a separate gallery as a source. They cannot be using e621 as the only source as it would make contacting the artist for takedowns impossible.

thegreatwolfgang said:
It really depends. Who is the banned user in question?

As a bit of fair warning first, if the user in question was either banned for Posting Abuse (either temporarily or permanently) or is somehow quota limited (i.e., having <0 for their upload limit), you posting on their behalf is considered Circumventing Site Restrictions or Suspensions and will get you permabanned.

If they have never interacted with the site as an artist and only got banned for unrelated reasons (i.e., not due to being an underaged artist, posting illegal material, etc.), their artwork may be posted provided that they also have a separate gallery as a source. They cannot be using e621 as the only source as it would make contacting the artist for takedowns impossible.

So,it's okay to upload if the ban reason isn't related to their art?

wheou6677 said:
So,it's okay to upload if the ban reason isn't related to their art?

It is very much dependent on the ban reason and their behaviour prior to their ban.

Again, who is the artist/user in question?
If you can't say who it is, then tell us the ban reason and their history of records (if any).
If you still can't provide either, then you can try messaging an admin privately to ask if it is allowed as I will not be able to provide you further answers.

thegreatwolfgang said:
As a bit of fair warning first, if the user in question was either banned for Posting Abuse (either temporarily or permanently) or is somehow quota limited (i.e., having <0 for their upload limit), you posting on their behalf is considered Circumventing Site Restrictions or Suspensions and will get you permabanned.

This is not true, the account will only be banned if it is actually the artist themselves using the account
if the person uploading is not actually the artist then it does not matter if the artist is instructing/paying/etc them to upload

donovan_dmc said:
This is not true, the account will only be banned if it is actually the artist themselves using the account
if the person uploading is not actually the artist then it does not matter if the artist is instructing/paying/etc them to upload

"Do not have others act on your behalf while currently under a suspension or a ban."

thegreatwolfgang said:
"Do not have others act on your behalf while currently under a suspension or a ban."

I don't really care what's written there or how you decide to interpret it, I'm telling you this based on what has happened
I'm not naming names but we have banned an artist, and we have knowingly let someone they hired and actively pay continue to upload their content

This all boils down to it not being in our best interest to ban someone different who is just uploading content and not continuing the behavior the artist was banned for
As far as we're concerned they are like any other user requesting content from an artist to upload, incentives and reasoning are irrelevant

interpretation and application of the rules vary from situation to situation, and malice or lack thereof are both taken into account when deciding how harshly, or if even at all to apply a rule to someone

donovan_dmc said:
I don't really care what's written there or how you decide to interpret it, I'm telling you this based on what has happened
I'm not naming names but we have banned an artist, and we have knowingly let someone they hired and actively pay continue to upload their content

This all boils down to it not being in our best interest to ban someone different who is just uploading content and not continuing the behavior the artist was banned for
As far as we're concerned they are like any other user requesting content from an artist to upload, incentives and reasoning are irrelevant

interpretation and application of the rules vary from situation to situation, and malice or lack thereof are both taken into account when deciding how harshly, or if even at all to apply a rule to someone

Saying "the account will only be banned if it is actually the artist themselves" and saying that the other user could also be banned for "continuing the behavior the artist was banned for" are two very different things.
This type of comment will only lead to further confusion when it contradicts what is explicitly said on the Code of Conducts.

If the artist, for example, got banned for uploading prohibited content, the other user would also get rightly banned for continuing the practice, regardless of whether or not they were instructed by the artist.
If the artist paid the other user to continue posting prohibited content on their behalf, the other user would also be permabanned instantly for maliciously acting on their behalf.
If the artist got banned for something completely unrelated (e.g., poor tagging, roleplaying, etc.) and has asked for the other user to help post their work and nothing else, then it would be completely fine.

What you should be saying is whether or not all of this boils down to a malicious attempt to "circumvent any site restrictions" and that the other user would not be immediately banned unless they are (a) the artist themselves using an alt account, or (b) continuing the exact same behaviour that the artist got banned for in the first place.

thegreatwolfgang said:
Saying "the account will only be banned if it is actually the artist themselves" and saying that the other user could also be banned for "continuing the behavior the artist was banned for" are two very different things.
This type of comment will only lead to further confusion when it contradicts what is explicitly said on the Code of Conducts.

If the artist, for example, got banned for uploading prohibited content, the other user would also get rightly banned for continuing the practice, regardless of whether or not they were instructed by the artist.
If the artist paid the other user to continue posting prohibited content on their behalf, the other user would also be permabanned instantly for maliciously acting on their behalf.
If the artist got banned for something completely unrelated (e.g., poor tagging, roleplaying, etc.) and has asked for the other user to help post their work and nothing else, then it would be completely fine.

What you should be saying is whether or not all of this boils down to a malicious attempt to "circumvent any site restrictions" and that the other user would not be immediately banned unless they are (a) the artist themselves using an alt account, or (b) continuing the exact same behaviour that the artist got banned for in the first place.

The original question was simply "can I post my friend’s artwork after his account was banned," and the answer simply is "yes."

"Do not have others act on your behalf while currently under a suspension or a ban." - this generally does not apply to uploading artwork, and never has. One of the core features of the site is that anyone may upload anyone’s artwork here unless they’re on the DNP list. If an artist was banned for posting "prohibited content" - let’s say, for example, posting human-only artwork repeatedly (it’s rare for someone to be fully banned for this, but it has happened) - then the other user will not be instantly banned for a human-only post. They may receive a warning for doing it repeatedly, and that might be escalated if we somehow find out that they were doing it on purpose because the artist told them to post content that they already know isn’t allowed, but even still, that just falls under the "Do not knowingly or repeatedly post content that goes against the uploading guidelines" line under Posting Abuse. However, if the behavior is really identical, we’ll probably just assume at that point that it is actually just the artist on an alt account and deal with it accordingly.

This rule specifically is used more for things like, say… a user is banned for engaging in a tag war, and the banned user enlists another user to continue the tag war in their absence. Stuff like that. It only really applies to things that are against the rules anyway, indicating that there may be stricter penalties if we find that you’re doing it because the banned user asked you to.

I guess one thing I should add to the OP's original question, though: there is one ban reason that would indicate that you cannot upload their artwork here, and that is Age Restrictions. If the artist was banned for being under the age of 18, none of their artwork may be posted here by anybody until they turn 18. You still wouldn’t be banned on the spot for that, though, but you might get a Posting Abuse record if you continue doing it after being told not to. Any other ban reason is honestly irrelevant to whether or not you can continue to post their artwork here in their absence.

spe said:
I guess one thing I should add to the OP's original question, though: there is one ban reason that would indicate that you cannot upload their artwork here, and that is Age Restrictions. If the artist was banned for being under the age of 18, none of their artwork may be posted here by anybody until they turn 18. You still wouldn’t be banned on the spot for that, though, but you might get a Posting Abuse record if you continue doing it after being told not to. Any other ban reason is honestly irrelevant to whether or not you can continue to post their artwork here in their absence.

It should probably be important to also mention that artworks made when they were underaged are still prohibited even after they have turned 18.
But I guess it's pointless to talk about the nuances of each site rule until we know what OP's artist friend got banned for.

thegreatwolfgang said:
It is very much dependent on the ban reason and their behaviour prior to their ban.

Again, who is the artist/user in question?
If you can't say who it is, then tell us the ban reason and their history of records (if any).
If you still can't provide either, then you can try messaging an admin privately to ask if it is allowed as I will not be able to provide you further answers.

It's WeiBilin He was banned for anti LGBT reasons If his work does not contain any opposing factors, can it be uploaded?

wheou6677 said:
It's WeiBilin He was banned for anti LGBT reasons If his work does not contain any opposing factors, can it be uploaded?

I mean, so long as you don't start posting fifty gorillion threads about fucking androids--

wheou6677 said:
It's WeiBilin He was banned for anti LGBT reasons If his work does not contain any opposing factors, can it be uploaded?

Yeah, it should be fine since none of his records were related to artwork.
Just make sure that his art meets the Uploading Guidelines and that it does not break any other site rules.

votp said:
I mean, so long as you don't start posting fifty gorillion threads about fucking androids--

There was another user which I had suspicions were WeiBilin's alt account since they posted nearly identical threads on aeromorphs, but they got permabanned for completely different reasons.

TBF, coming onto a site and uploading art just like a user that previous got banned for uploading reasons is going to make a lot of people jump to (incorrect) conclusions about ban evasion.

I guess it feels like common sense to not shit-post for someone. ;)