Topic: Disembodied_Penis should not implicate Male in the tags

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

If it's tag what you see then a single unattached body part, even a genital, shouldn't force a gender tag on a post where no such person is present. It could theoretically be attached to anything that isn't shown.

nin10dope said:
If it's tag what you see then a single unattached body part, even a genital, shouldn't force a gender tag on a post where no such person is present. It could theoretically be attached to anything that isn't shown.

A body part of the character is still part of the character, whether it's a penis, an arm, legs, or a head, so the character would be present. And there isn't a practical reason to assume a character with a penis isn't male just because it could be attached to a non-male character while no other traits to suggest such are visible. Like in
post #5193973
the character with a penis could be a gynomorph or (male)herm with breasts and/or a vagina we just can't see, but it's not reasonable to assume things like that when we can't see them.

That said, I agree that a disembodied_penis shouldn't imply male automatically, because it's possible to depict a disembodied penis in a way that makes it clear that it belongs to a character that also has breasts or a vagina (particularly with comics, multiple_images, or model sheets). But if there are otherwise no indications of breasts or a vagina on the same character that the disembodied penis belongs to, it should be considered a male character. It wouldn't do anyone any favors to say post #5405364 isn't male/female and is just solo female, for example.

watsit said:
A body part of the character is still part of the character, whether it's a penis, an arm, legs, or a head, so the character would be present. And there isn't a practical reason to assume a character with a penis isn't male just because it could be attached to a non-male character while no other traits to suggest such are visible. Like in
post #5193973
the character with a penis could be a gynomorph or (male)herm with breasts and/or a vagina we just can't see, but it's not reasonable to assume things like that when we can't see them.

That said, I agree that a disembodied_penis shouldn't imply male automatically, because it's possible to depict a disembodied penis in a way that makes it clear that it belongs to a character that also has breasts or a vagina (particularly with comics, multiple_images, or model sheets). But if there are otherwise no indications of breasts or a vagina on the same character that the disembodied penis belongs to, it should be considered a male character. It wouldn't do anyone any favors to say post #5405364 isn't male/female and is just solo female, for example.

You're missing the bigger supposition
It being disembodied could just as easily have nothing theoretically attached
That's what disembodied literally means, let alone the logic of TWYS
The image you used as an example is a liberal use of the tag because you can see it's attached to a person and that the artist meant to convey that idea. You can infer a Male tag in that one through context but it misses my point entirely
What I'm talking about is when there's literally nothing attached to it, if you see the backside the artist will often even put an X where it would normally connect to someone

nin10dope said:
You're missing the bigger supposition
It being disembodied could just as easily have nothing theoretically attached
That's what disembodied literally means, let alone the logic of TWYS
The image you used as an example is a liberal use of the tag because you can see it's attached to a person and that the artist meant to convey that idea. You can infer a Male tag in that one through context but it misses my point entirely
What I'm talking about is when there's literally nothing attached to it, if you see the backside the artist will often even put an X where it would normally connect to someone

That would fall under the second example:
post #5405364
or another:
post #5368673
Would you really say these aren't male/female and should be solo female? In my view, the only way images like that wouldn't be male/female is if it was actually a dildo, and thus not a disembodied_penis.