Topic: Is there any objective minimum quality standard or is it entirely up to moderators discretion?

Posted under Art Talk

So far all of my posts has been deleted for not meeting the minimum quality standard. most of them has been high resolution, been fully colored and shaded, had for the most part clean lineart, and the anatomy might not be the best but i've seen worse on here. i've also posted a couple black and white pieces but i know that isn't against the site rules because there are plenty of lineart only posts.

They're very picky, like way too picky with what they deem acceptable and also pretty inconsistent. Also grey area stuff just tends to get auto deleted by a bot instead of a human making a decision on it.

It's pretty ironic they're so picky when it's a furry art archive, that'd be like Wikipedia not having info on Mathematics because they found it too boring.

Anyway, I haven't bothered uploading anything here for a couple years, got sick of the approvers being too picky.

pikachulover said:
Also grey area stuff just tends to get auto deleted by a bot instead of a human making a decision on it.

technically, that's still a decision made by a human. it's just the decision was to let the post sit unaccepted untill it got kicked off the end of the queue.

imineyourmom said:
So far all of my posts has been deleted for not meeting the minimum quality standard. most of them has been high resolution, been fully colored and shaded, had for the most part clean lineart, and the anatomy might not be the best but i've seen worse on here. i've also posted a couple black and white pieces but i know that isn't against the site rules because there are plenty of lineart only posts.

If you think you've seen posts that are legitimately worse than your own, then please post them here.

Putting that aside, you have a lot that you need to work on. Looking at post #5337627:

  • The floating penis is basically just being motion-tweened back and forth, and the actual drawing remains the same for all 26 frames.
  • Chopper's arms consist of a total of two frames, where one is just a rotation of the other.
  • Chopper's legs consist of a total of three frames, two of which are just slight adjustments and the third is spreading them apart.
  • The timing is all over the place. Both ejaculations are over in less than 0.2s, you swap between leg/arm frames so quickly that it looks like a flailing Garry's Mod ragdoll being dragged across a floor. There is no sense of anticipation, no follow-through, none of the principles that make animation interesting.
  • Chopper's trunk is absolutely massive, and the part that's occluded by the arm looks like he's got a record-breaking pair of man tits. There's no smooth curve indicating that his body is getting more narrower as one moves past his shoulder, it's more or less a sudden right-degree angle that puts all the cover_them_up_slut posts to shame.
  • Every part of the body except the arms and legs remains completely static, which is very strange for a character that's getting fucked in the ass.

pikachulover said:
Also grey area stuff just tends to get auto deleted by a bot instead of a human making a decision on it.

Any post that runs the full 30-day deletion timer has almost certainly been seen by approvers, but who simply did not decide to approve or delete it at the time.
Passing the buck to other approvers is still a decision at the end of the day, and if everybody decides to pass the buck to somebody else then that means nobody was willing to approve it.

Posting to e621 will always be at your own risk, so if you can't maintain the mindset and attitude of a professional artist and a mature adult when it comes to your art, you're going to get your feelings hurt. I agree that it's not always easy, but this is the reality of art. E621 is not a personal gallery, and an artist is frequently not the best judge of the quality of their own art because they frequently are so caught up in their art high that they miss the majority of flaws in their work until they come back much later and can look at it as if it were someone else's art. You should post your work on a gallery like DeviatArt or FurAffinity where you'll have control over what gets posted. It will also allow you to build up art over time and see how much you change and improve over time. (You're also going to be doing a lot of screaming into the void. Have patience. Trust me on this.)

imineyourmom said:
So far all of my posts has been deleted for not meeting the minimum quality standard. most of them has been high resolution, been fully colored and shaded, had for the most part clean lineart, and the anatomy might not be the best but i've seen worse on here. i've also posted a couple black and white pieces but i know that isn't against the site rules because there are plenty of lineart only posts.

To put it bluntly, you've got the beginnings of some skill in your art, but it's still somewhat rudimentary and needs a lot of refinement to get up to the e621's minimum standards. There's only one way to fix that, and that's Yogi Berra's response after being asked how to get to Carnegie Hall, "Practice, practice, practice."

Use references to learn anatomical proportions and how the body looks and moves from various angles. Your pelvises look as if they lack half the volume they're supposed to have, so you need to work out the underlying structure of the body before filling out the details. It's clear that drawing hands still daunts you. Have your characters actually do something other than awkwardly standing straight towards the viewer, even if it's something small. That's where drawing hands will pay off as those are some of the most expressive (if difficult) parts of the body to draw.

If you wish to make NSFW stuff, issues to look at include making breasts look like breasts and genitals look like genitals. If you wish to make furry art or even just kemonomimi, reference actual animals so you can make tails, paws, and facial features look like they're from the animals you want them to look like they're from. And that will all take practice.

But your quality can get there if you keep practicing. In a year's time, you'll look back at these early drawings of yours and understand why we said what we said about them.
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Chuck Jones said:
"Every artist has thousands of bad drawings in them, and the only way to get rid of them is to draw them out."

You won't believe how many bad drawings I still make after somewhere around 30 years drawing on and off. But they're far, far less bad than they used to be.

I'm sorry but could I ask how long has it been since you actually started to create work
Not to question you but to for my own reference

textac said:
I'm sorry but could I ask how long has it been since you actually started to create work
Not to question you but to for my own reference

Clawstripe already said around 30 years?

scth said:
Clawstripe already said around 30 years?

Weren't they asking the OP? :/ I'd guess OP only recently started.