Aliasing Beige_fur -> Tan_fur.

Reason: Virtually indistinguishable.

I second this :P

Thirded. The other day I spent a couple minutes going back and forth between them trying to decide which one to use. I finally just picked one because I couldn't find any way to choose. They usually seem like the light and dark shades of the same color if not identical.

ETA: I'm starting to think implicating tan_* to --> beige_* would make more sense than an alias. Beige is much broader than Tan, and Tan is really a specific shade of Beige.

Still in favor of aliasing, but would want tan_* --> beige_* because it makes "tan" the easier-to-spell shorthand for beige. And because beige is understood as a broader color range than the word "tan" is. The word "tan" could lead to the color range narrowing over time because tanned skin is only a few darker shades, while beige encompasses a much wider range of pale tones that happen to include tan.

Well... This topic may have many shades points to look at. Wiki says the color code for Beige is #F5F5DC and the color code for Tan) is #D2B48C. Not a slight differende. Though in case of images... That's another thing I believe.

Yeah, both have brown base hue, but beige is actually closer to white than it is to tan.

They frequently get mixed up, but dunno if that's good enough reason to combine them. Might be better to just clean them up a bit.

The trouble is that beige is a range of colors, even wider than tan. So maybe even the possibility of implicating them should be considered come to think of it.

Beige can range from just plain off-white, to sort of eggshell/cream (not deep enough to be yellow), to a off-white pink-tinted hue that's not quite strong or distinct enough to be pink, to whatever a caucasian flesh tone is supposed to be (a yellow-pink-lightish-tan-off-white hybrid?), to a soft lightish off-white brownish hue that's not quite dark enough to be brown, to some really light grey-tinted tans, to even Tan or khaki.

Beige is all about tints and shades which technically encompasses quite a range. If you scroll down that page EsalRider linked, you can see that there's a two types of beige that are almost the same color as the Tan in the other link. I don't think trying to keep them separate is going to be practical because they clearly overlap quite a lot. When you add in that a pale tan-ish color will almost certainly be beige, it almost doesn't make sense to call them separate anymore than light-blue is to dark-blue. So basically, I don't see a way of cleanly separating the two.

But since beige is actually much broader than tan, representing a much more exhaustive range of off-white ultra light yellow/brown/pink/tans then maybe an implication is starting to make more sense. Like implicate tan_* to --> beige_* as a type of beige.

ETA: This is what I get for thinking out loud. lol But as I've worked through the entire thought train, I think an alias tan_* --> beige_* makes the most sense. Because 1, lighter/darker shades of the same color use the same color tag, 2, "tan" would become shorthand for the trickier to spell "beige", 3, beige is understood to be a broader color including lighter shades as well as including tan, while "tan" is by definition a lot more limited in color range. We'd lose less this way.

furrypickle said:

Thing is, why should we have two tags that will be (as the op said) virtually indistinguishable ?, I think colors like cyan would be fine as you can pretty much recognize it when tagging, but these ones are too specific imo, so I still vote for an alias.

But since beige is actually much broader than tan, representing a much more exhaustive range of off-white ultra light yellow/brown/pink/tans then maybe an implication is starting to make more sense. Like implicate tan_* to --> beige_* as a type of beige.

Agreed. It'd make a lot more sense that way around, even though tan_* is currently more commonly used than beige_*.

Butterscotch said:
Thing is, why should we have two tags that will be (as the op said) virtually indistinguishable ?, I think colors like cyan would be fine as you can pretty much recognize it when tagging, but these ones are too specific imo, so I still vote for an alias.

I'm starting to turn myself in circles because I can see both sides of it. But I think I end up agreeing with what you said. And the reason why is that, after looking at hundreds of images under both beige and tan everything basically boils down to a few key points:

• tan is just the darker version of beige.

• And if lighter and darker versions of every other color still co-exist under the same color tags (which is something I agree with for now) then there's no reason to make beige/tan an exception to that.

• They do differ some, but not anymore than navy blue to baby blue. And those share a color tag of blue, so tan/beige should share their color tag as well.

So I think I'd still alias them based on that. I can't justify separating out the lighter/darker shades on this color when it isn't done for any other color. It wouldn't be very consistent.

As for which direction to alias, I really don't know. On the one hand beige is a much broader term and might be a better description for the wide range of tones beige/tan can have, while the word "tan" might make people think only of darker suntanned tones. Which might cause future misunderstandings of what color it's supposed to be. On the other hand, "tan" is so much easier to spell with no sneaky "ei" combination to remember. Of course, if "tan" were to alias --> beige then I could still type "tan" and it end up with "beige" making tan the shorthand version of it. Which could be handy. So I guess I'd go with wanting beige as the official term for things to alias to.

I just use white, tan, brown, and black as far as that particular segment of the spectrum goes. No need to get so incredibly specific.

Ooh, can we get into ecru_fur, oatmeal_fur, taupe_fur, wheat_fur...? ;)

Yeah, this is probably a place to go for KISS. There are too many color variations and there's hardly a reason to go all Pantone. I think just having tan is probably a good idea.

Many images under beige_fur are closer to yellow or white than they are to tan. So I still don't think it's a good idea to alias it that way around..

Aliasing these two together for the sake of consolidating a few colors

Also I am giving brownie points to whomever makes a "colors we use" chart here on e6 and pms me about it