The tag implication #66213 looking_down_at_self -> looking_down is pending approval.

Reason: The character is looking down at themselves, which should imply with looking down

reathe said:
The tag implication #66213 looking_down_at_self -> looking_down is pending approval.

Reason: The character is looking down at themselves, which should imply with looking down

I guess, however the first thing that comes to mind is that it should implicate that the character is looking at their self.

I was trying to look for an image where a character who was upside-down looked “down” at their self, thus looking up.
Point is that down is relative to a perspective. Thus, “looking down at self” should not imply “looking down” on the chance that one’s down is another’s horizontal. Instead, it should imply “looking at self” if it doesn’t already.

Other potential examples i can think of:
- some anime box art where character A is upside-down relative to character B.
- A character falling from 1000 meters upside down. Like Wile-E Coyote, with his arms crossed looking at down at himself with an amount of frustration.
- A character hanging from a rope by their ankles and looking to see what’s got their ankles. I have seen this one many times.

peskeon said:
I was trying to look for an image where a character who was upside-down looked “down” at their self, thus looking up.
Point is that down is relative to a perspective. Thus, “looking down at self” should not imply “looking down” on the chance that one’s down is another’s horizontal.

looking_down_at_self should follow the same meaning as looking_down+looking_at_self regardless of what looking_down means, or should be renamed. It will be too error-prone if looking_down_at_self doesn't equally mean looking_down, and there has been some debate recently about whether looking_down/looking_up should be relative to the character's body or the ground. I'm in the latter camp, as the former just opens up too many corner cases; I don't think anyone would say this is looking_down_at_self:
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even though they are looking at themself downward relative to their body. It's only relative to the ground that they're looking level at themself.