The bulk update request #9857 is active.

create alias 80's_themed (0) -> 80's_theme (10)
create alias 80's_vibe (0) -> 80's_theme (10)
create alias 1980s_(style) (0) -> 80's_theme (10)

Reason: All synonyms for 1980s themed art.
I've just noticed our decade theme tags aren't standardized :P but this is the current 80s tag

EDIT: The bulk update request #9857 (forum #432655) has been approved by @spe.

The bulk update request #9857 (forum #432655) has been approved by @spe.

wandering_spaniel said:
I've just noticed our decade theme tags aren't standardized :P but this is the current 80s tag

To be honest, I think I'd prefer them this way, as [19]80s_theme. Using 1980s would be too ambiguous as to whether it's meant for posts themed that way or made in that decade.

While I don't think there's any potential for ambiguity here for a long time yet, I think it would be better to standardise with the full year.

2080 is obviously a long time away, but it could only be a matter of time before somebody creates 2020s_style (not sure what that would be other than the covid-19_pandemic, which has its own tag, but I suppose the things that define the decade probably only get noticed in the following decades) which would need to be distinguished from the 1920s.

Either way the apostrophe should be dropped because that's just not correct.

clawstripe said:
To be honest, I think I'd prefer them this way, as [[[19]80s_theme]]. Using 1980s would be too ambiguous as to whether it's meant for posts themed that way or made in that decade.

Agreed, i like 1980s_theme

The bulk update request #9872 is active.

create alias 1900s (3) -> 1900s_theme (4)
create alias 1910s (1) -> 1910s_theme (6)
remove alias 1920's (0) -> 1920s (4)
remove alias 20's (0) -> 1920s (4)
remove alias 20s (0) -> 1920s (4)
create alias 1920s_aesthetic (5) -> 1920s_theme (89)
create alias 1930s (3) -> 1930s_theme (48)
remove alias 1940's (0) -> 1940s (3)
remove alias 40s (0) -> 1940s (3)
create alias 1950s (9) -> 1950s_theme (105)
create alias 50s (1) -> 1950s_theme (105)
remove alias 60s (0) -> 1960s (1)
remove alias sixties (0) -> 1960s (1)
create alias 1970s (5) -> 1970s_theme (113)
create alias 70s (3) -> 1970s_theme (113)
remove alias 1980's (0) -> 80's_theme (10)
remove alias 1980s (0) -> 80's_theme (10)
remove alias 1980s_(style) (0) -> 80's_theme (10)
remove alias 80's (0) -> 80's_theme (10)
remove alias 80's_aesthetic (0) -> 80's_theme (10)
remove alias 80's_themed (0) -> 80's_theme (10)
remove alias 80's_vibe (0) -> 80's_theme (10)
remove alias 80s (0) -> 80's_theme (10)
remove alias 80s_aesthetic (0) -> 80's_theme (10)
remove alias 80s_theme (0) -> 80's_theme (10)

Reason: Standardizing to the <full decade>s_theme format

alias 1920s -> 1920s_theme
alias 1920's -> 1920s_theme
alias 20's -> 1920s_theme
alias 20s -> 1920s_theme
alias 1940s -> 1940s_theme
alias 1940's -> 1940s_theme
alias 40s -> 1940s_theme
alias 1960s -> 1960s_theme
alias 60s -> 1960s_theme
alias sixties -> 1960s_theme
alias 80's_theme -> 1980s_theme
alias 1980's -> 1980s_theme
alias 1980s -> 1980s_theme
alias 1980s_(style) -> 1980s_theme
alias 80's -> 1980s_theme
alias 80's_aesthetic -> 1980s_theme
alias 80's_themed -> 1980s_theme
alias 80's_vibe -> 1980s_theme
alias 80s -> 1980s_theme
alias 80s_aesthetic -> 1980s_theme
alias 80s_theme -> 1980s_theme
alias 1990s -> 1990s_theme
alias 90s -> 1990s_theme

Optional, not quite sure if maybe there's posts of characters anachronistically wearing these clothes looking out of place in a differently-timed setting or something

alias 50s_attire -> 1950s_theme
alias 1970s_clothing -> 1970s_theme
alias 80s_clothing -> 1980s_theme
alias 80's_attire -> 1980s_theme
alias 80s_hair -> 1980s_theme
alias 90s_clothing -> 1990s_theme

EDIT: The bulk update request #9872 (forum #432796) has been approved by @spe.

The bulk update request #9873 is active.

remove alias 90s (0) -> 1990s (5)
create alias 90's_theme (17) -> 1990s_theme (242)
create alias 90s_decade (3) -> 1990s_theme (242)
create alias 2000s (3) -> 2000s_theme (385)
create alias 2010s (0) -> 2010s_theme (29)

Reason: continued

EDIT: The bulk update request #9873 (forum #432797) has been approved by @spe.

wandering_spaniel said:
Optional, not quite sure if maybe there's posts of characters anachronistically wearing these clothes looking out of place in a differently-timed setting or something

alias 50s_attire -> 1950s_theme
alias 1970s_clothing -> 1970s_theme
alias 80s_clothing -> 1980s_theme
alias 80's_attire -> 1980s_theme
alias 80s_hair -> 1980s_theme
alias 90s_clothing -> 1990s_theme

Like with a costume party or time travelers like the Doctor? One could make a case that someone wearing 50s attire counts as something themed from 1950s, even if it's depicted in the modern day.

Imagine the reverse, such as the Doctor wearing modern fashions while running around in a different time period, either in the past or the future. We don't realize it with our modern eyes so used to modern fashions, but he's a walking fashion anachronism. Yet, a picture with the Doctor wreaking havoc in Egypt's Fifth Dynasty would still be themed "Egyptian" even though he's wearing a modern three-piece suit that's 2010s_theme (which shouldn't be tagged).

Therefore, I'd argue that the [decade]_theme tags describe the picture itself rather than any particular element in it. I'm leaning towards keeping decade-themed attire separate from the decade themes.

The bulk update request #9872 (forum #432796) has been approved by @spe.

The bulk update request #9873 (forum #432797) has been approved by @spe.

The bulk update request #9901 is active.

create alias 1920s (4) -> 1920s_theme (89)
create alias 1920's (0) -> 1920s_theme (89)
create alias 20's (0) -> 1920s_theme (89)
create alias 20s (0) -> 1920s_theme (89)
create alias 1940s (3) -> 1940s_theme (116)
create alias 1940's (0) -> 1940s_theme (116)
create alias 40s (0) -> 1940s_theme (116)
create alias 1960s (1) -> 1960s_theme (59)
create alias 60s (0) -> 1960s_theme (59)
create alias sixties (0) -> 1960s_theme (59)
create alias 80's_theme (10) -> 1980s_theme (798)
create alias 1980's (0) -> 1980s_theme (798)
create alias 1980s (0) -> 1980s_theme (798)
create alias 1980s_(style) (0) -> 1980s_theme (798)
create alias 80's (0) -> 1980s_theme (798)
create alias 80's_aesthetic (0) -> 1980s_theme (798)
create alias 80's_themed (0) -> 1980s_theme (798)
create alias 80's_vibe (0) -> 1980s_theme (798)
create alias 80s (0) -> 1980s_theme (798)
create alias 80s_aesthetic (0) -> 1980s_theme (798)
create alias 80s_theme (0) -> 1980s_theme (798)
create alias 1990s (5) -> 1990s_theme (242)
create alias 90s (0) -> 1990s_theme (242)

Reason: Personal I think attire and theme shouldn't be aliased together and should stay distinct (though i'm open to an implication)

EDIT: The bulk update request #9901 (forum #433134) has been approved by @spe.

(excited about above suggested alias to 1980s_theme)

*
And now for a wet-blanket moment:
but 2020s tag (thankfully only 2 posts) seems to getting used only because art was made in the decade of 2020-2029. (didn't notice any 2020s-decade-theme in those two posts)

ie. We should be watchful for works CREATED in decade-example, but with no visible decade-example content.

snpthecat said:
(BUR 9901) ...

Reason: Personal I think attire and theme shouldn't be aliased together and should stay distinct (though i'm open to an implication)

I'm fine either way,
but have a slight-preference that [decade]_clothing tags IMPLY to the relevant [decade]_theme tags.
Only [decade]_clothing tag i noticed is: 1970s_clothing.

*

Similar tags of 1700s_clothing
and 1800s_clothing.
(which sound nice, BUT I assume they are intended for a relevant CENTURY, but ...

(focusing on that 1700s tag:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1700s says
"1700s may refer to:

• The century from 1700 to 1799, almost synonymous with the 18th century (1701–1800)
• 1700s (decade), the period from 1700 to 1709"

So 1700s_clothing could be seen as referring to a century, OR the decade of 1700 to 1709.

( Wikipedia page for that decade at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1700s_(decade) )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century
has two kinds of century:
1) Strict (example: 1701 to 1800)
2) Popular (example 1700 to 1799)
I prefer the Popular type of century.

But i see at e621 wiki pages such as 19th_century that e621 seems to have gone with the Strict definition of century (example: 1801-1900)

So perhaps:
1) 1700s_clothing be changed to 1700s_century_clothing (IF 1700-1799), OR 18th_century_clothing (IF 1701-1800) ?
2) 1800s_clothing be changed to 1800s_century_clothing (IF 1800-1899), OR 19th_century_clothing (IF 1801-1900) ?

As far as i can tell 21st_century won't be a tag at e621. (based on reading of 20th_century wiki)

*

EDIT: looked through 1990s, and
1) tagged with 1994 , but doesn't seem 1990s THEMED to me, so maybe remove 1990s tag from it:
post #3951221

3) tagged with 1997, but doesn't seem 1990s THEMED* to me , so maybe remove 1990s tag from it:
post #1049087
* = (and Star Fox set in fictional planetary system, so if they had a 1990s ... probably different from our 1990s)

listerthesquirrel said:
And now for a wet-blanket moment:
but 2020s tag (thankfully only 2 posts) seems to getting used only because art was made in the decade of 2020-2029. (didn't notice any 2020s-decade-theme in those two posts)

ie. We should be watchful for works CREATED in decade-example, but with no visible decade-example content.

Nothing new there. It's a risk for a great many tags, even with wikis. The 2020s tagged posts should be retagged with the actual year or just have the tag removed. Hopefully, the above tag standardizations will help.

Similar tags of 1700s_clothing
and 1800s_clothing.
(which sound nice, BUT I assume they are intended for a relevant CENTURY, but ...

(focusing on that 1700s tag:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1700s says
"1700s may refer to:

• The century from 1700 to 1799, almost synonymous with the 18th century (1701–1800)
• 1700s (decade), the period from 1700 to 1709"

So 1700s_clothing could be seen as referring to a century, OR the decade of 1700 to 1709.

Something for the wiki, I suppose. Perhaps we could use an 18th_century_theme tag? :\

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century
has two kinds of century:
1) Strict (example: 1701 to 1800)
2) Popular (example 1700 to 1799)
I prefer the Popular type of century.

But i see at e621 wiki pages such as 19th_century that e621 seems to have gone with the Strict definition of century (example: 1801-1900)

So perhaps:
1) 1700s_clothing be changed to 1700s_century_clothing (IF 1700-1799), OR 18th_century_clothing (IF 1701-1800) ?
2) 1800s_clothing be changed to 1800s_century_clothing (IF 1800-1899), OR 19th_century_clothing (IF 1801-1900) ?

Arguably, it ought to depend on what the century is being used for. The year and century tags are strictly chronological and clearly defined, so ought to use the Strict type of century (there being no year 0 in the Anno Domini/Common Era reckoning). Themes and attire are "sloppier" and can bleed into another decade or century. They are basically associated with a particular decade or century only because of popular opinion, so ought to be the Popular type of century (since when do people care that there wasn't a year 0? It was so long ago!).

As far as i can tell 21st_century won't be a tag at e621. (based on reading of 20th_century wiki)

Maybe if e621 lasts when 2101 rolls around, then 21st_century would be useful to us (and perhaps an adjustment to add the 1980s and 1990s to 20th_century). However, currently, we're using the century tags to divide up ancient art into reasonably searchable chunks. Anything after the formation of the modern furry fandom (approximately 1980 as a round figure) would essentially swamp 20th century. 21st_century would be even worse with no real gain for organization that can't be currently served best by the individual year tags. Again, in a hypothetical future 22nd century e621, when a lot of today's art qualifies as "ancient_art", it could make better sense. In fact, thinking on it some more, it's possible we could get away with having the 1980s and 1990s imply 20th_century and ancient_art perhaps as early as 2040-2050. We'll just have to see how future us figure things out.

But of course, that's just a speculative digression from the thread's actual topic.

The bulk update request #9901 (forum #433134) has been approved by @spe.