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Signal App
Essentially a privacy-friendly messenger app like Telegram
Yet, the furry community (even yours truly) barely uses it, and one guy is urging people to move to this app, which is safer than Telegram.
Over the last month where the Telegram CEO was arrested and where one of my friend's Discord got hacked, I am asking you guys who use this app if this is worth using as the app claims to be.
Looks interesting. Does it have one-to-many channels and public groups joinable via a link like telegram? IMO it'd really need both of those features to really be a viable alternative to Telegram for furries
I find it hilarious that TG never encrypted group chats except to/from a hub (server can see everything), yet even some country's militaries were using it. It makes sense because of bandwidth costs, though.
Signal is kind of well-known, too.
To do E2E properly with group chat, you have to send each person a differently-encrypted message, or have a session key encrypted differently for each user. Since they are all supposed to be able to see it, anyways, and you just don't want the server getting a key, that session key is far more sensible than sending different content to each of them. Which BTW, potentially exposes IP addresses. XD
kora_viridian said:
Signal, like Telegram, apparently requires a phone number to sign up. That article proposes that if you want to use a number other than your "regular" phone number to sign up for Signal, you can get one from a well-known champion of user privacy, Google, or a well-known spammer, Twilio. Hmm.I wouldn't worry too much. The French cops probably don't have a $5 wrench .
If only there was a way to not have a CEO to apply that wrench to, if only...
Bumping this. It's quite a bummer that Signal doesn't have groups yet. And I don't know if there was any updates on the Telegram CEO and if there are any agreements on this.
simplex has also been on the rise as well, though less well known and with less features it's just about gold standard in private chat.
XMPP - Free Software you can actually trust! Wow! GPL GNU Richard Stallman Linux type stuff - Got your attention? Let's begin.
Gajim - Windows
Siskin - Apples
Conversations - Android (use f-droid)
OMEMO encryption: Activate it.
Add me if you want.
XMPP clients are poor in quality.
GPL, GNU, Richard Stallman, and Linux are poor in quality as well.
fowen46015 said:
XMPP clients are poor in quality.
GPL, GNU, Richard Stallman, and Linux are poor in quality as well.
LOL that sounds like "Prove me wrong" clickbait on YT.
Two more secure apps I’ve used are Element.io and Session. Email address and phone number are not required IIRC.
rokuenluuka said:
Two more secure apps I’ve used are Element.io and Session. Email address and phone number are not required IIRC.
Session has MULTIPLE security issues by worsening the Signal encryption, to the point that it smells of fed honeypot (Fun Session fact, in a lot of anime imageboards putting a Session ID anywhere gets you an INSTANT ban as it's notoriously used for IRL CSAM)
Sources about the security issues:
https://soatok.blog/2025/01/14/dont-use-session-signal-fork/
https://soatok.blog/2025/01/20/session-round-2/
I only trust messages I and the receiver encrypt ourselves so I just stick to discord
milochu94 said:
I only trust messages I and the receiver encrypt ourselves so I just stick to discord
devourer_ita said:
Session has MULTIPLE security issues by worsening the Signal encryption, to the point that it smells of fed honeypot (Fun Session fact, in a lot of anime imageboards putting a Session ID anywhere gets you an INSTANT ban as it's notoriously used for IRL CSAM)
Sources about the security issues:
https://soatok.blog/2025/01/14/dont-use-session-signal-fork/
https://soatok.blog/2025/01/20/session-round-2/
What is your take on Element X?
rokuenluuka said:
What is your take on Element X?
The 7th element is better
donovan_dmc said:
The 7th element is better
People don't use what's secure or best, people use what other people are using.
That's why everyone in US uses Apple because that's what was in school, so everyone uses that.
That's why everyone was on Twitter, becuase that's where everyone else also was on.
With furries, I do not believe anyone is there because of privacy, rather they are there because everyone else is already in there, including information channels and group chats for events and you can also do your own sticker packs completely free and they work well.
I did delete WhatsApp because it was just IRL contacts who were using those and as they already have to use my phone number to message me on that, they can also just use SMS, RCS or even regular phone call.
donovan_dmc said:
The 7th element is better
I see what you did there.
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Joking aside, an individual who goes by JapanAnon or Chano-san is a good source of finding secure chat apps, though he does occasionally make playfully trollish jabs at furries.
Updated
I'm surprised no one made a current events joke yet
