The bulk update request #5620 is active.

Reason: This should streamline the tag implications surrounding the tail_in_* tags to make it easier to search for posts containing tails being inserted in various orifices.

EDIT: The bulk update request #5620 (forum #378031) has been approved by @slyroon.

The bulk update request #5621 is active.

create implication tail_in_own_ass (861) -> tail_in_ass (2149)
create implication tail_in_own_pussy (663) -> tail_in_pussy (0)
create implication tail_in_own_cloaca (46) -> tail_in_cloaca (80)
create implication tail_in_own_slit (16) -> tail_in_slit (31)
create implication tail_in_own_urethra (12) -> tail_in_urethra (59)

Reason: Should be pretty straight forward, a post containing tail_in_own_*(ass, pussy, cloaca, slit, urethra) should also be tagged with tail_in_*(ass, pussy, cloaca, slit, urethra). This also means the post contains autopenetration, and since that implies masturbation these tags should also imply their respective *_masturbation tags.

Edited the BUR to split it into multiple parts.

EDIT: The bulk update request #5621 (forum #378032) has been approved by @slyroon.

Would it be considered masturbation and autopenetration if someone else is handling a character's tail and penetrating that character's own orifice?

watsit said:
Would it be considered masturbation and autopenetration if someone else is handling a character's tail and penetrating that character's own orifice?

Honestly I'm not sure, while I believe it should constitute autopenetration I am not sure if it should be considered masturbation. I was going to split the masturbation implications from the penetration related tags until i saw that autopenetration already implied masturbation anyway, but I think I'll split that BUR for now so people can vote on the different parts of it seperately.

The bulk update request #5625 is pending approval.

create implication tail_in_own_ass (861) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_pussy (663) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_cloaca (46) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_slit (16) -> tail_autopenetration (1)
create implication tail_in_own_urethra (12) -> tail_autopenetration (1)

Reason: A character's tail being inside their own body is tail_autopenetration.

The bulk update request #5626 is pending approval.

create implication tail_in_own_ass (861) -> tail_masturbation (2651)
create implication tail_in_own_ass (861) -> anal_masturbation (22657)
create implication tail_in_own_pussy (663) -> tail_masturbation (2651) # duplicate of implication #47185
create implication tail_in_own_pussy (663) -> vaginal_masturbation (35032)
create implication tail_in_own_cloaca (46) -> tail_masturbation (2651)
create implication tail_in_own_cloaca (46) -> cloacal_masturbation (386)
create implication tail_in_own_slit (16) -> tail_masturbation (2651)
create implication tail_in_own_slit (16) -> slit_masturbation (266)
create implication tail_in_own_urethra (12) -> tail_masturbation (2651)
create implication tail_in_own_urethra (12) -> urethral_masturbation (413)

Reason: Since autopenetration implies masturbation it might make sense to add these implications to these tags as well.

I think autopenetration should be for when a character is actively penetrating themselves under their own power, i.e. it's automatic and not under external control/influence. So a character grabbing and controlling another character's tail and penetrating them with it would not be autopenetration/masturbation, IMO.

watsit said:
So a character grabbing and controlling another character's tail and penetrating them with it would not be autopenetration/masturbation, IMO.

would it be better to use something like forced_autopenetration or assisted_autopenetration in those cases, or how would you tag such a post?

themasterpotato said:
would it be better to use something like forced_autopenetration or assisted_autopenetration in those cases, or how would you tag such a post?

I'm not sure. forced_autopenetration sounds like a form of rape, which may not be the case if the character looks like they're into allowing it and aren't resisting or in distress, while assisted_autopenetration sounds like the opposite, a character allows it to happen and isn't being forced into it.

watsit said:
I'm not sure. forced_autopenetration sounds like a form of rape, which may not be the case if the character looks like they're into allowing it and aren't resisting or in distress, while assisted_autopenetration sounds like the opposite, a character allows it to happen and isn't being forced into it.

I think those 2 tags together with autopenetration would cover pretty much all situations of a character being penetrated by their own penis/tail. But personally I would rather remove the masturbation implication from autopenetration, especially since penis_in_own_pussy already implies autopenetration, which has the exact same issue as the tail_in_own_* tags because it can also be forced onto a character by another character.

Wrote and cleaned up assisted masturbation to frame the tagging logic for cases like assisted autopenetration. It's still masturbation, just with help. Very similar to two characters holding the same sex toy stimulating one character or hand holding on one character's genitals and stimulating them. Those are both masturbation and sex.

Assisted autopenetration doesn't have to be sex while still being masturbation. Using a character's own body like a sex toy to masturbate said character really tests our boundary for the sex tag (contrast with toying partner).

Also, forced autopenetration would still be assisted in most cases. Consent is irrelevant to "assistance," lack of consent becomes unwanted assistance (serial killer logic).

abadbird said:
Very similar to two characters holding the same sex toy stimulating one character or hand holding on one character's genitals and stimulating them.

Not really. In that case, the one character is still pleasuring themself under their own power, just with another character there helping. In the case of a tail, the one character can be actively resisting with another overpowering them. It'd be more like a character trying to push away or block the sex toy, with another character forcing it in/on anyway.

The bulk update request #5620 (forum #378031) has been approved by @slyroon.

The bulk update request #5621 (forum #378032) has been approved by @slyroon.