The bulk update request #5422 is pending approval.

Reason: *part 1*
the kissing_*/*_kiss tags were kind of ambiguous and ended up being mistagged on posts with stuff like frottage, touching_tips, and breast_frottage; using kiss_on_* for all cases is a lot more consistent and clear.

(also implying a bunch of previously unimplied tags to kissing)

follow-up BUR:

alias kissing_hand -> kiss_on_hand
alias hand_kissing -> kiss_on_hand
alias hand_kiss -> kiss_on_hand
alias kissing_cheek -> kiss_on_cheek
alias cheek_kissing -> kiss_on_cheek
alias cheek_kiss -> kiss_on_cheek
imply kiss_on_cheek -> kissing
alias kissing_penis -> kiss_on_penis
alias penis_kissing -> kiss_on_penis
alias penis_kiss -> kiss_on_penis
alias kissing_breast -> kiss_on_breast
alias breast_kissing -> kiss_on_breast
alias breast_kiss -> kiss_on_breast

The bulk update request #5423 is pending approval.

create alias kissing_anus (0) -> kiss_on_anus (0)
create alias anus_kissing (0) -> kiss_on_anus (0)
create alias anus_kiss (100) -> kiss_on_anus (0)
create implication kiss_on_anus (0) -> kissing (76442)
create implication kiss_on_anus (0) -> anal (461763)
create alias kissing_butt (181) -> kiss_on_butt (0)
create alias butt_kissing (9) -> kiss_on_butt (0)
create alias butt_kiss (64) -> kiss_on_butt (0)
create alias kissing_ass (0) -> kiss_on_butt (0)
create alias ass_kissing (0) -> kiss_on_butt (0)
create alias ass_kiss (6) -> kiss_on_butt (0)
create implication kiss_on_butt (0) -> kissing (76442)
create alias kissing_belly (12) -> kiss_on_belly (0)
create alias belly_kissing (0) -> kiss_on_belly (0)
create alias belly_kiss (150) -> kiss_on_belly (0)
create alias kissing_stomach (26) -> kiss_on_belly (0)
create alias stomach_kissing (0) -> kiss_on_belly (0)
create alias stomach_kiss (0) -> kiss_on_belly (0)
create implication kiss_on_belly (0) -> kissing (76442)

Reason: *part 2*

The bulk update request #5424 is pending approval.

Reason: *part 3*

Imo kiss_on_stomach should be kiss_on_belly because we generally use stomach for the internal organ and belly for the region of the body, i believe

cloudpie said:
Imo kiss_on_stomach should be kiss_on_belly because we generally use stomach for the internal organ and belly for the region of the body, i believe

I originally had it that way, but then I checked hand_on_belly which was aliased to hand_on_stomach and just assumed that was the standard.

EDIT: it does seem like -> belly is preferred in more recent requests so, I'll go with that.

also, I'm not sure what I should do with anal_kiss it's distinctly not a kissing tag but it's name is similar to one... probably ought to be aliased to anus_frottage, which is a tag with a similar/identical definition, but I dunno.
there's also several other non-kiss_on_*-type *kiss* general tags that should be dealt with in one way or another.

both of those seemed outside of the scope of this BUR, so I didn't include them.

Bumping this for further community sentiment. Is this a good direction for the kissing body part tags or do we want to standardise to another name

The question is what should kissing be, by definition? When people search the tag kissing, are they expecting to find only images 2+ characters pressing their lips/mouths/orifices together? Or are they also expecting to find instances of only one person kissing another person not on their lips, kissing an inanimate object, and/or kissing themselves?

We do have kiss_on_lips with over 8k posts tagging it (and strangely still doesn't imply kissing). french_kissing and forced_kiss currently imply kissing, but don't imply kiss_on_lips. We also have penis_kissing and breast_kiss that imply kissing to infer that kissing is a broad tag, but no other kissing of body parts, self, or objects imply kissing, not even kissing_cheek.

The wiki page for kissing also implies it's a very general kissing tag as long as it's one character's mouth on some part of another character (what about kissing objects or self?). So, any tags related to mouth-on-mouth kissing should imply kiss_on_lips first, then kiss_on_lips should then imply kissing. Kissing of various body parts may need to be fed through new intermediate tags like kissing_body_part, or kissing_genitals first.

There's also activity-based kissing like kissing_during_sex with no implications as of yet, but I'm going to make a bulk update request for that on my own since there's no mention of any activity-related kissing tags in this request.