The tag alias #61310 space_pirate_(species) -> zebesian has been rejected.

Reason: Zebesian's are often colloquially called space pirates, but that is not an actual race, but a collection of races describing a criminal organization within Metroid.
A separate, non-Metroid-specific tag for space pirates as a profession already exists.

If not an alias, this should be an implication in the reverse direction and instead of (species) it should be (metroid) to differentiate from Space_Pirate

https://metroid.fandom.com/wiki/Space_Pirate
https://metroid.fandom.com/wiki/Zebesian

EDIT: The tag alias space_pirate_(species) -> zebesian (forum #357106) has been rejected by @NevanNedall.

"Space pirate" is too ambiguous of a term on its own, so it's beneficial to have the tag be more specific about what it's referring to.

Besides, that wiki you linked details that they're not from Zebes, so wouldn't be "Zebesian". Zebes is just one of the planets they conquered, and are mentioned as "Zebesian" only to denote that specific appearance/sub-group (e.g. the Zebesian Space Pirates look different from the Aetherian Space Pirates, which look different from the ones on Tallon IV). Metroid Prime 3 depicts a "Pirate Homeworld", which is otherwise unnamed (and the wiki doesn't say if that's their native homeland, instead of their main base of operations).

This is... borderline ambiguous?

alphamule said:
This is... borderline ambiguous?

watsit said:
"Space pirate" is too ambiguous of a term on its own, so it's beneficial to have the tag be more specific about what it's referring to.

The tag I suggested aliasing is almost entirely the creatures I would refer to as Zebesians, or Ridley, Kraid, and other leaders of the organization of completely different races.
Regardless of that, "Space_Pirate_(Species)" is simply inaccurate. That's not the name of any one species, and its usage on-site is mostly just as a second version of the Zebsian tag.

watsit said:
Besides, that wiki you linked details that they're not from Zebes, so wouldn't be "Zebesian". Zebes is just one of the planets they conquered, and are mentioned as "Zebesian" only to denote that specific appearance/sub-group (e.g. the Zebesian Space Pirates look different from the Aetherian Space Pirates, which look different from the ones on Tallon IV). Metroid Prime 3 depicts a "Pirate Homeworld", which is otherwise unnamed (and the wiki doesn't say if that's their native homeland, instead of their main base of operations).

Be that as it may, it's what that particular race of creatures most commonly being tagged as "Space_Pirates" are called.
As I said, if not an Alias, than it should be an implication in reverse, and it should be corrected from being a species, because it's not. It'd be like tagging Goombas "Koopa_Troop_(Species)"

I think "Zesesian" implicate=> "Space_Pirate_(Metroid)" achieves the same goal, or perhaps does so better than my original suggestion even, leaving room for proper tagging of the other various races, but I'm not sure if I can just edit the post since I know part of this process is automated, if I recall correctly?

nevannedall said:
There's already a generic "space_pirate" tag, I don't really see what benefit having a second one does.

Because this:
post #3818573
has nothing to do with this:
post #2100568

One is more of an occupation, like pirate, while the other is an otherwise unnamed species of space pirates in the Metroid universe. Conflating the two won't do anyone any good.

nevannedall said:
The tag I suggested aliasing is almost entirely the creatures I would refer to as Zebesians, or Ridley (being part of the space pirates, the orginization)

Whether or not you would refer to them as Zebesians doesn't change their (lack of) name. Unless they're canonically called Zebesian as a whole (including those that were on Tallon IV and elsewhere) in official material, that's just a fan name for an otherwise unnamed species. They're not from Zebes and their homeworld isn't Zebes, Zebes is just one of the worlds they conquered (and not even the first one they conquered). At best, a specific sub-group of them is on Zebes, but the games don't make it clear whether these variations are unique sub-species, or a cybernetically modified variations. As it is, there are other species that are/were indigenous to Zebes that would be just as good if not better to call "Zebesian".

nevannedall said:
Regardless of either of those, "Space_Pirate_(Species)" is simply inaccurate. That's not the name of any one species, and its usage on-site is mostly just as a second version of the Zebsian tag.

Then the Zebesian tag should alias Space_Pirate_(Species), until such time that a canon name for them is discovered. They are a species in the Metroid games, which current canon just calls "Space Pirates". If there's something else official media calls the species that works better, suggest that. But as it is, at most "Zebesian" only refers to a specific sub-group of the species, not them all.

nevannedall said:
I'm not sure if I can just edit the post since I know part of this process is automated, if I recall correctly?

Alias Requests, Implication Requests and Bulk Update Requests are reviewed by an admin (usually me) and either approved or rejected.

Only admins can approve requests, but the user who created the request can reject it. Try doing it here -> alias #61310

Bulk Update Requests can be edited by the user who requested it, while Alias Requests and Implication Requests can only be edited by an admin.

In a case like this, it's simpler to just reject the Alias Request or Implication Request yourself and request another one.

watsit said:
Unless they're canonically called Zebesian as a whole (including those that were on Tallon IV and elsewhere) in official material.

The other ones wouldn't be, because they're all completely different species. Misinterpreted which ones you were talking about.
The wiki article for Zebsian states the following

Series director Yoshio Sakamoto has said that the Pirates that invaded Zebes took "Zebesian" as a general name for themselves after the conquest of the planet, comparing it to immigrants to America calling themselves Americans after taking official residence.

and cites "Metroid Zero Mission Official Site Development Room, as translated by Metroid Database"
They call themselves Zebesians, they took that name for themselves, wrongfully or not, that's what they're, seemingly, officially called.

I apologize for all the edits after my last post, which is now probably causing a bit of confusion with your reply.

gattonero2001 said:
In a case like this, it's simpler to just reject the Alias Request or Implication Request yourself and request another one.

Will probably just do that, then.

The tag alias space_pirate_(species) -> zebesian (forum #357106) has been rejected by @NevanNedall.

Space_pirate_(species) is rather vague. Other franchises have space pirates, some of which could be differentiated into specific species (eg. Star Trek's Orions). Retagging or updating space_pirate_(species) into space_pirate_(metroid) would be better.