Topic: How far-reaching is this site?

Posted under General

I mean as far as non-English speakers/countries? Are we known worldwide?

I was kind of amazed when this tweet showed up on my timeline last night. (This probably sounds braggy but it made my night. I'm not used to even indirect feedback)
In brief, I put post #3757086 up 2 days ago. The artist was grateful for the proper sourcing and lots of tags (You're welcome!) but also surprised because it's a 6-year-old piece. I broke silence and responded, "[We] didn't have it yet, so I uploaded it."

So aside from having just potentially outed myself on Twitter, another thought came to mind: This site isn't just in English but it also uses terminology (esp. biology, anatomy) I don't use in my day-to-day. Yes it's the correct wording but how many ESL/non-speakers can navigate it? (Or do they even try?) I'd asked before if foreign Pokemon names could be used as aliases but also concluded it would be a waste if no one from like Japan or Taiwan or Germany ever comes around.

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I'm brazilian, and most online furs I know from Brazil seem kinda aware of e621 but apparently know barely nothing about it. Or don't showcase interest.

I don't know what opinion to form in regards to making the site more open to other languages, sounds cool, but is still extra work with uncertain benefits. Let alone quality/checking and moderating.

And the tag terminology might be ocassinaly complex, but that's why we have wikis .w.

Probably as far-reaching as furries, though I'm not sure how far-reaching that is. I'd say look at the language tags (link ), but the fact that latin_text is listed with nearly 200 posts demonstrates this isn't an entirely accurate representation of artists' native languages.

glyme said:
I mean as far as non-English speakers/countries? Are we known worldwide?

I made myself the same question like a year ago, and my (very naive) approach was this . That gave me the impression that this site was pretty much "popular" around the world. However, latter one user commented that still the immense majority of traffic of the site was overwhelmingly (as spected, being an English based site) from the USA, the UK, Canada, Australia... and the Anglosphere in general. Maybe the two approaches, and the one of seeing the list of languages in the art itself (as pointed by @CrocoGator), are not necessary "contradictory" but are different points of view of a underlying complex reality.

But I am very sure, that that if you are a Furry in Argentina, Egypt or Thailand, you know about E6.

This site isn't just in English but it also uses terminology (esp. biology, anatomy) I don't use in my day-to-day. Yes it's the correct wording but how many ESL/non-speakers can navigate it? (Or do they even try?) I'd asked before if foreign Pokemon names could be used as aliases....

It also surprised me. The use of pretty scientific terminology of Taxonomy/Systematics and anatomical terms. But I think that it came from the intent to use something more precise that disambiguates and make more capable a highly intellectual user, to find more accurately what he/she wants... but I recently read a post here, that complains about that . I myself do not cast an opinion about that. I myself do not base my appreciation of art based on a species, or even if the art is about "avian", "reptile", "dinosaur"... if you look at my favorites, you will know what I mean. But maybe this system works for many, I don't know.

... but also concluded it would be a waste if no one from like Japan or Taiwan or Germany ever comes around.

(I assure you that a sizable number of poeple from Germany comes around this site).

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The site itself was blocked in my country 3 years ago, at that time it seems a lot furry know how it works.

Recently I talked with a friend about uploading works here and she said it looks complex and don’t know where to start.

I guess if ppl really want to see some furry stuff they will find e621 eventually, but the participation level may be varied depends on level of English…

Fun fact: pornography is illegal in China, and porn sites like PornHub are blocked. e621, though? Free and clear. Make of that what you will.

mexicanfurry said:
I made myself the same question like a year ago... and the one of seeing the list of languages in the art itself are not necessary "contradictory" but are different points of view of a underlying complex reality.

No, There's a high amount of Japanese art because Pixiv and JP Twitter and the like are good places to go scavenging for new art (in theory. I do both and hate sifting through pixelation and Fantia self-adverts (and most recently AI art), hence the word "scavenging")
English is by far the most spoken language to any degree offline. Even moreso online, as Americans in particular have a humongous internet and media footprint (*yes China exists but uh... no)

vulpes_artifex said:
Fun fact: pornography is illegal in China, and porn sites like PornHub are blocked. e621, though? Free and clear. Make of that what you will.

OK China maybe. Deliberately laying out some "forbidden fruit" is a good way to criminalize their citizens down the line.

vulpes_artifex said:
Fun fact: pornography is illegal in China, and porn sites like PornHub are blocked. e621, though? Free and clear. Make of that what you will.

Not an expert (by very far) "sinologist" here, either. But some years ago I read that a great percentage of gay movies around the World were "Chinese"... "something to do with the sex imbalance due to the "one child policy" of previous decades". Although I don't know if by "Chinese" they ment they wre produced by PRC, ROC, or the many Chinese communities around the Pacific.

(I am straight, so maybe it is understandable I have not delved much in the subject... but maybe someone that really knows, could say more about that).

Like that, sometimes our prejudices and long held mislead ideas about far unknown countries and cultures are shattered from time to time. with incoming information. There is always whole Worlds of unknown things outside our small personal bubbles.
=).

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I think a good amount of furries are at least aware of it. I guarantee it's better known than sites like Transfur, maybe even VCL because of its age. Furaffinity and Deviantart are the only two sites I can say for sure are better known. The smaller alts, Inkbunny, SoFurry, Weasyl, Furry Network, etc. aren't very popular so I don't know where e621 stands with them.

mexicanfurry said:
Not an expert (by very far) "sinologist" here, either. But some years ago I read that a great percentage of gay movies around the World were "Chinese"... "something to do with the sex imbalance due to the "one child policy" of previous decades". Although I don't know if by "Chinese" they ment they wre produced by PRC, ROC, or the many Chinese communities around the Pacific.

(I am straight, so maybe it is understandable I have not delved much in the subject... but maybe someone that really knows, could say more about that).

Like that, sometimes our prejudices and long held mislead ideas about far unknown countries and cultures are shattered from time to time. with incoming information. There is always whole Worlds of unknown things outside our small personal bubbles.
=).

I really doubt the CCP is deliberately permitting furry pornography. They're very sexually repressive (which makes sense, considering how repressive they are in general)—recently they even started a campaign against effeminate men in media. Rather, e621 has just flown under the radar so far.

vulpes_artifex said:
I really doubt the CCP is deliberately permitting furry pornography. They're very sexually repressive (which makes sense, considering how repressive they are in general)—recently they even started a campaign against effeminate men in media. Rather, e621 has just flown under the radar so far.

Probably.

In reality, even when China is a very important and interesting country to study, I really hadn't have the time to read more about it. Things like how is this country evolving in the last decades, and specially in the last years, I missed almost completedly.

=(.

However, just recently heard about a famous book of science fiction, the most popular work of SciFi en recent times in China titled " 三体 " (Three bodies). I heard in YouTube the first chapter (Spanish) .... Oh boy!! Is an Ode to Anti-Communism (or at least anti-Maoism), depicting that as a kind of "Mass Madness", that allow the most barbaric and primitive deeds to happen... and see, now is one of the most popular books in China.

=!

Didn't expected that.

What I mean: There is a lot of things interesting, that I don't know.

In reality, I personally do not see China, and even the Chinese goverment as a force of good or evil. I trend to see it as country that trough Capitalism (de facto), have made impressive material advances, and so far have not invaded a foreign country in decades. While I saw that, I guess that I didn't heed much more about it. Regarding internal repression... well, is not pretty to see it anywhere (guess it is even worst to see it directly). But apart of the common places, I don't venture big judgments so far.

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On the more general subject, I believe that it is good that Furry begins to internationalize, as an article in a previous post said, beyond North America and Europe... but maybe not very fast.

(Here, a rave in a Furry Convention in Mexico )

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