forum #9896 suggests Tag Implication: intestines -> entrails and has no conversation

entrails has 78 posts.

is entrails different than guts? Should entrails be aliased to guts?

I am not familiar with gore related tags.

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entrails is typically associated with gore and having the intestines *outside* of the body. however, in fringe cases they can be viewed inside, such as with glass frogs.

snowwolf said:
forum #9896 suggests Tag Implication: intestines -> entrails and has no conversation

Did you mean this one?

entrails has 78 posts.

is entrails different than guts? Should entrails be aliased to guts?

I'm not familiar with gore either, but Oxford defines entrails as the internal organs of the body, especially the intestines. Guts is defined (at least in a couple of its meanings) as the tube through which food passes after the stomach has had its way with it (ie. the intestines), the organs in and around the belly, or the belly itself. I think that it really doesn't matter if they're outside the body or not. However, as gore would require them to be damaged or out of the body, switching to a tag like exposed_entrails or exposed_guts might be in order?

clawstripe said:
Did you mean this one?]

Well... I didn't mean the one I linked. I don't mean that one either, though. I meant topic #9896 -- my bad.

I'm not familiar with gore either, but Oxford defines entrails as the internal organs of the body, especially the intestines. Guts is defined (at least in a couple of its meanings) as the tube through which food passes after the stomach has had its way with it (ie. the intestines), the organs in and around the belly, or the belly itself. I think that it really doesn't matter if they're outside the body or not. However, as gore would require them to be damaged or out of the body, switching to a tag like exposed_entrails or exposed_guts might be in order?

The wiki for entrails and guts seem like they cover a similar swath of territory, and guts would seem to be way more tagged... but I've made the mistake before or aliasing things together that were actually being used for different purposes,.... so I didn't wannna alias them together without being sure.

that and the gore stuff is one of the few tags that really does make me regret my life choices, so I'd rather not study the art tagged too closely.

snowwolf said:
Well... I didn't mean the one I linked. I don't mean that one either, though. I meant topic #9896 -- my bad.

The wiki for entrails and guts seem like they cover a similar swath of territory, and guts would seem to be way more tagged... but I've made the mistake before or aliasing things together that were actually being used for different purposes,.... so I didn't wannna alias them together without being sure.

that and the gore stuff is one of the few tags that really does make me regret my life choices, so I'd rather not study the art tagged too closely.

I do browse those tags sometimes. From what I have seen (and from doublechecking it now), I think that you could probably alias entrails to -> guts. Guts is slightly broader/less specific about exactly which insides but both entrails and guts are used for the same idea rough idea when it comes to gore (essentially: any abdominal organs or insides that are gore-style exposed/somewhere outside of the body instead).

But I don't know if implicating 'intestines' works for either of them, because intestines shows up in two contexts: internal/anatomical type views vs gore internal-organs being exposed type situations. So that's only gore half of the time. The anatomical view instances isn't as common (and idk how often it gets tagged either), but it still shows up decently enough in images that I think it could cause problems if intestines was implicated into gore indirectly. Interesting, there's a lot more vore-related ones in intestines now since the last time I'd looked at that, so that's more reasons why intestines won't fit under gore very well.

Nvm, I was assuming guts was implicated to gore. It isn't though, and that's probably for the best considering the range that guts is being used for. That makes things simpler then.

Interesting, it looks like guts already has intestines implicated. So if you alias entrails to -> guts then the existing intestines implicated to -> guts is already done.
But if there's ever any suggestions that want to implicate guts to --> gore then probably not do that. Well, not unless we figure out a way to separate the gore type vs the anatomical view and vore type uses somehow. Right now you can search guts -gore to get the other kind. Which I suppose works, as long as gore is not added into the wrong part of the chain.

TL;DR: you can probably alias entrails -> guts, and then guts already has an existing implication of intestines to guts, so it's already done. But do beware any future attempts to implicate any of these tags with gore because the usage is mixed between non-gore anatomical views, non-gore vore and gore. So we'd have to separate things first, if it ever came to that. /fwiw