Aliasing coprophillia → scat
Link to alias

Reason:

Seems like the best place for this to go.

More like CRAPophilia, amiright? :D
...
*crickets chirping*
I'll see myself out

Sure.

Tokaido said:
More like CRAPophilia, amiright? :D
...
*crickets chirping*
I'll see myself out

You should be ashamed of yourself.

That was a really crappy pun.

parasprite said:
You should be ashamed of yourself.

That was a really crappy pun.

Belongs in the outhouse, really.

I vote for implication instead. A picture of someone pooping isn't the same as a picture of someone getting off to poop.

Who gives a shit, amirite?

Durandal said:
Who gives a shit, amirite?

Unless you want this to fall into the bowels of the internet, best to keep it sorted.

parasprite said:
You should be ashamed of yourself.

That was a really crappy pun.

The shame is real, I'll just scat

Ko-san said:
I vote for implication instead. A picture of someone pooping isn't the same as a picture of someone getting off to poop.

It wouldn't actually mean the same thing because pooping is actually a tag by itself.

The implications currently run like this:

• feces - poop, in any form
• pooping - someone pooping
• scat - Our tag to mean "poop is the focus, and probably the erotic part".
• hyperscat - The picture is literally covered in shit.

Any implications will probably have to fit within this framework for the moment.

Related: I've only now realized, but eating_shit isn't actually implicated to anything. It should probably one of feces or scat, but I'm leaning towards scat since that's basically our coprophilia tag.

So far, this is looking good about coprophilia to --> scat. But I'm going to hold off on making a final call since it's still a brand new discussion. In the meantime, there was a point I wanted to make.

parasprite said:
...Related: I've only now realized, but eating_shit isn't actually implicated to anything. It should probably one of feces or scat, but I'm leaning towards scat since that's basically our coprophilia tag.

I'm not convinced that eating_shit is always sexual. Scat is for when there's a sexual or fetishized element to the feces stuff. But images like https://e621.net/post/show/78596 and https://e621.net/post/show/424566 depict eating_shit situations where they don't look like it's something they're necessarily sexualizing. Just enjoying it (for whatever other reasons). So I don't think the two are automatically linked. I think eating_shit may be more like the pooping tag: in that it can be scat, but it can also nonsexual depending. So, I'm leaning more towards implicating eating_shit to --> feces instead, since that sounds more solid. There will always be feces if someone is eating it. Those that are both scat and eating_shit can be tagged with both tags. It's probably the majority. But this way it doesn't break the tags on the few which aren't necessarily sexual about it, and we won't have to redo it at some future date if someone brings this up. I think it's the more reliable option.

furrypickle said:
So far, this is looking good about coprophilia to --> scat. But I'm going to hold off on making a final call since it's still a brand new discussion. In the meantime, there was a point I wanted to make.

I'm not convinced that eating_shit is always sexual. Scat is for when there's a sexual or fetishized element to the feces stuff. But images like https://e621.net/post/show/78596 and https://e621.net/post/show/424566 depict coprophagia situations where they don't look like it's something they're necessarily sexualizing. Just enjoying it (for whatever other reasons). So I don't think the two are automatically linked. I think eating_shit may be more like the pooping tag: in that it can be scat, but it can also nonsexual depending. So, I'm leaning more towards implicating eating_shit to --> feces instead, since that sounds more solid. There will always be feces if someone is eating it. Those that are both scat and eating_shit can be tagged with both tags. It's probably the majority. But this way it doesn't break the tags on the few which aren't necessarily sexual about it, and we won't have to redo it at some future date if someone brings this up. I think it's the more reliable option.

Honestly I think the post on the eating_shit wiki is probablly a better example of this (post #13692). That being said, I'd be okay with either option over the occasional post not getting tagged feces at all.

Related: hyperscat is linked to scat, but what it depicts is probably closer to hyper_feces; I think that it might be worth renaming it.

Edit:

• eating_shit -> feces
• diarrhea -> feces
• hyper_feces -> feces
• alias: hyperscat -> hyper_feces

Reminder that eating_shit needs to be implicated to feces.

Alright, approved:

aliasing coprophillia to --> scat because coprophilia means sexualising feces which is also what our scat tag means.
aliasing hyper_scat, hyperscat and hyperfeces to --> hyper_feces since it's really about just excessive amounts of poop and isn't always sexualizing it. So "hyper scat" was a bit of a misnomer.

implicating eating_shit to --> feces
implicating diarrhea to --> feces
implicating hyper_feces to --> feces.

Now all that shit is done. =P

Do you think hyper_feces still imply hyper as it did before?

parasprite said:
Do you think hyper_feces still imply hyper as it did before?

I somehow missed that one. Thanks for catching it. And done.

Sorry to reply to old thread, but this seemed the main thread for discussing scat tags.

Noticed new upload that is tagged with scat, but no poop visible.
(post #3640754 )

Was going to change 3640754's tag from scat to imminent_scat, but thought I'd check to make sure that tag change was ok.

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issue #2:
I think imminent_scat is reasonable tag,
(similar to e621 having 33 other imminent_* tags that have wikis)

but I'm skeptical of imminent_scat wiki page which currently says
"A formal ratio calculated that measures gaseous emissions at varying phases of needing to take a shit, postulating that the more imminent the turd, the higher the volume and rate of concurrent farting."
(EDIT: that wiki text sounds more like text for imminent_pooping)

maybe change that wiki to:
"This tag is used when the post (art or video) makes it clear (with either dialogue, positioning and/or facial expressions of the characters) that they are about to engage in scatplay (coprophilia, a fetish of deriving sexual pleasure from feces or pooping), but no feces is currently visible."
?

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EDIT: imminent_scat seems to include a few posts that should be changed to:
1) implied_pooping
2) maybe imminent_pooping (not a tag yet)
or 3) pooping

Congratulations, you've discovered that the official meaning of the scat tag is widely ignored by most users on the site, and will be repeatedly added to any picture which includes feces in non-scat contexts.

Nobody wants to make any effort to fix this problem, least of all the admins (who erroneously added scat instead of feces to the default blacklist years ago and still refuse to fix it, contributing enormously to the present ignorance).

wat8548 said:
Nobody wants to make any effort to fix this problem

It's not worth. It's so badly wrong used, it would only lead to false reports by people who think we would do tagging vandalism. And reports by the taggers because casual users will keep changing it back.
Furthermore, I don't want to risk being false reported, for something that's seemingly misunderstood by the admins.

wat8548 said:
Congratulations, you've discovered that the official meaning of the scat tag is widely ignored by most users on the site, and will be repeatedly added to any picture which includes feces in non-scat contexts.

Nobody wants to make any effort to fix this problem, least of all the admins (who erroneously added scat instead of feces to the default blacklist years ago and still refuse to fix it, contributing enormously to the present ignorance).

The same goes for watersports too.

dubsthefox said:
It's not worth. It's so badly wrong used, it would only lead to false reports by people who think we would do tagging vandalism. And reports by the taggers because casual users will keep changing it back.
Furthermore, I don't want to risk being false reported, for something that's seemingly misunderstood by the admins.

adding onto this, I sometimes see people adding these tags when in reality, its only implying that thing, when in reality, its actually not there.

And this is why I put forth this BUR a year ago to try and fix that, because we're not gonna retrain the users. And even some mods are unaware of the fact that this is suppose to be copprophila specifically, and not things like disposal.

https://e621.net/forum_topics/31198

gyrotech said:
And this is why I put forth this BUR a year ago to try and fix that, because we're not gonna retrain the users. And even some mods are unaware of the fact that this is suppose to be copprophila specifically, and not things like disposal.

https://e621.net/forum_topics/31198

But why does Disposal need to be a term? All forms of scat are disposal. All forms of watersports is disposal. Any kind of elimination from the body would be disposal. I guess I'll ask you because you seem to be the most vocal but what exactly is your goal with this because everyone else think the scat tag is fine enough to cover all of it. At this point its better to tie all terms of pooping to the scat tag, with sub fetishes tagged as such. This makes it hard for me because it makes me not want to upload my art in fear of tagging it wrong when the tags I used are fine for FA and while FA doesnt have a issues with their system but people dont have issue finding art there.

thecapedmanlloyd said:
But why does Disposal need to be a term? All forms of scat are disposal. All forms of watersports is disposal. Any kind of elimination from the body would be disposal. I guess I'll ask you because you seem to be the most vocal but what exactly is your goal with this because everyone else think the scat tag is fine enough to cover all of it. At this point its better to tie all terms of pooping to the scat tag, with sub fetishes tagged as such. This makes it hard for me because it makes me not want to upload my art in fear of tagging it wrong when the tags I used are fine for FA and while FA doesnt have a issues with their system but people dont have issue finding art there.

Disposal is already a tag thats wildly used and refers specifically to post-vore eliminations, be it scat, milk, cum, vaginal fluids, urine, or other things, and is different from coprophilia.