Topic: Tag alias: plantar_flexion -> pointed_feet

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Clawstripe

Janitor

sulmarobar said:
Those would (to me) seem more accurately described as no_feet (an invalid tag) or footless. I'm not sure whether a taxonomist would call those any of unguligrade, plantigrade, or digitigrade, seeing as they lack any digits, plantae(feet), or ungulae(hooves).

It seems more like pointed_legs or stilt_legs could be more appropriate as there's functionally no feet at all, either the legs ending just above a normal character's ankles or the feet and ankle effectively being reduced to points.

spe

Admin

It may be “confusing Latin,” but I think it’s the best tag for this concept. At least it means exactly what it means, which is what these kinds of tag names are good for. Admittedly, I had no idea what this meant until I read the wiki page; but the page was well-written and described the concept adequately, and now I know exactly what the tag means and how to use it. And it’s not like “pointed feet” is any less confusing - in fact, it’s more confusing. Before determining what plantar flexion meant, I assumed “pointed feet” would have referred to feet that terminate in a single point rather than what it actually means. And as others have pointed out, the tag has been used for that concept as well, indicating that it’s a vague term. Plantar flexion is never going to be confused with that kind of pointed_feet or perhaps stilt_legs or whatever tag ends up being used for that, so I’d much rather keep the precise Latin tag over the vague English one.

Also, plantar overflexion exists as well. What would you propose we replace that with?

Sulmarobar

Member

scaliespe said:
It may be “confusing Latin,” but I think it’s the best tag for this concept. At least it means exactly what it means, which is what these kinds of tag names are good for. Admittedly, I had no idea what this meant until I read the wiki page; but the page was well-written and described the concept adequately, and now I know exactly what the tag means and how to use it. And it’s not like “pointed feet” is any less confusing - in fact, it’s more confusing. Before determining what plantar flexion meant, I assumed “pointed feet” would have referred to feet that terminate in a single point rather than what it actually means. And as others have pointed out, the tag has been used for that concept as well, indicating that it’s a vague term. Plantar flexion is never going to be confused with that kind of pointed_feet or perhaps stilt_legs or whatever tag ends up being used for that, so I’d much rather keep the precise Latin tag over the vague English one.

Also, plantar overflexion exists as well. What would you propose we replace that with?

overpointed_feet , overflexed_feet
overflexion is an interesting term by itself. The correct term is HYPERflexion, and yet this tag uses OVERflexion, almost as if plain English is preferable to Latin or something

more to my point though, if I saw an art piece on another website (a snippet from a meme or a youtube video), and I came here to look for it, why would I think to type plantar_flexion instead of pointed_feet. It's not just about taggers using the tag to tag posts, but searchers using a tag to find posts.

if pointed_feet is vague, than flexed_feet would mean essentially the same thing, while disambiguating a pointy stump from feet(and I don't know that there is any other way to flex a foot, unless some muscle fetishist would like to provide evidence contrary). And wouldn't require that one consider latin anatomy terms when searching fairly simple ideas.

spe

Admin

sulmarobar said:
overpointed_feet , overflexed_feet
overflexion is an interesting term by itself. The correct term is HYPERflexion, and yet this tag uses OVERflexion, almost as if plain English is preferable to Latin or something

more to my point though, if I saw an art piece on another website (a snippet from a meme or a youtube video), and I came here to look for it, why would I think to type plantar_flexion instead of pointed_feet. It's not just about taggers using the tag to tag posts, but searchers using a tag to find posts.

if pointed_feet is vague, than flexed_feet would mean essentially the same thing, while disambiguating a pointy stump from feet(and I don't know that there is any other way to flex a foot, unless some muscle fetishist would like to provide evidence contrary). And wouldn't require that one consider latin anatomy terms when searching fairly simple ideas.

Counterpoint: we could simply alias pointed_feet, flexed_feet, and whatever other English terminology to plantar_flexion so that people can find it. I don’t think “flexed feet” is a term that’ll automatically come to anyone’s mind anyway, and so they’ll still have to search to find the correct tag one way or another. It’s not like there’s a common English term for this highly specific gesture. Better to just alias the more vague alternatives to the most specific and most precise terminology possible to aid in finding the term rather than keeping a more vague term that is more liable to mistagging. The alias system, after all, is not just for consolidating duplicate tags, but also for pointing users to the correct tag in cases when the correct tag might not be easy to find - hence why aliased tags point to the correct tag in search results and predictive text.

Clawstripe

Janitor

Furthermore, consider that we do regularly use possibly confusing Latin tags already without a problem, as Species tags.