The tag alias #57588 lesbian_correction -> corrective_rape is pending approval.

Reason: "Corrective rape" is the more well known term for what lesbian_correction is describing, and it can include gay men as well as gay women.

I also propose implicating homophobia to corrective rape, due to the act of corrective rape being homophobic and pretty upsetting for some, but let me know what you think.

edit: another suggestion from further in the forum

yeoldenut said:

On another note, conversion_therapy could also be a better fit for what we're going for here. It's specific to gay people and would avoid confusion with situations of corrective rape where the perpetrator is raping another to punish them for a mistake or to "fix their attitude"

how did I know this was going to be a whitekitten specific thing

yeoldenut said:
I also propose implicating homophobia to corrective rape, due to the act of corrective rape being homophobic and pretty upsetting for some, but let me know what you think.

I'd like to imagine asexual characters could also be subject to corrective_rape if somebody wanted art of that.

Is it really homophobic though considering that they almost always have gynos on female? It's like.... anti vagina more then anything else.

yeoldenut said:
I also propose implicating homophobia to corrective rape, due to the act of corrective rape being homophobic and pretty upsetting for some, but let me know what you think.

Corrective rape (despite being a whitekitten thing right now), can happen for multiple reasons, with homophobia/lesbian characters only being one of them.
I believe it was more prominent in the past, but some media has depicted even straight women undergoing corrective rape to fix their attitude and/or lifestyle. Just one example.

popoto said:
Corrective rape (despite being a whitekitten thing right now), can happen for multiple reasons, with homophobia/lesbian characters only being one of them.
I believe it was more prominent in the past, but some media has depicted even straight women undergoing corrective rape to fix their attitude and/or lifestyle. Just one example.

You make a good point about the different ways corrective rape is used, maybe implicating homophobia to it wouldn't be the right move?

But then there's the preexisting orientation_play ("attempting to change the partner's sexual orientation to the one that conflicts the original one") + gay_to_straight + rape tags... so maybe lesbian_correction should just be aliased to gay_to_straight and tagged with rape
My head is spinning!

yeoldenut said:
so maybe lesbian_correction should just be aliased to gay_to_straight

Is it gay-to-straight if two thirds of the posts feature a gynomorph?
I also think it makes this an inherently touchy subject. I know there's a lot of discourse regarding lesbians who don't want to date/have sex with women who have penises, which is what most of this tag is shooting directly for.

if anything it's akin to brainwashing or mental torture

magnuseffect said:
I know there's a lot of discourse regarding lesbians who don't want to date/have sex with women who have penises, which is what most of this tag is shooting directly for.

Even though typically 'corrective rape' is performed by men/people of the opposite sex to turn gay people straight. Somehow.

misschu said:
Even though typically 'corrective rape' is performed by men/people of the opposite sex to turn gay people straight. Somehow.

I mean, IMO it pays to think of sexuality as multi-axis but I think that's going to be a controversial take for a while longer.
As I understand lot of lesbians just don't want anything to do with dick regardless of gender.

magnuseffect said:
Is it gay-to-straight if two thirds of the posts feature a gynomorph?
I also think it makes this an inherently touchy subject. I know there's a lot of discourse regarding lesbians who don't want to date/have sex with women who have penises, which is what most of this tag is shooting directly for.

Yeah I get your point about that, especially from a tagging standpoint... I think I'm more focused on the intent of the rape rather than who is doing the raping, so I agree gay_to_straight isn't the right fit.
And yes many of the gynomorphs in these pictures probably aren't even considered "women" by the viewers or the artists (unlike, say, a trans character would be), so it would be misleading to put a straight or gay label on it with the tagging system we have in place at the moment.

On another note, conversion_therapy could also be a better fit for what we're going for here. It's specific to gay people and would avoid confusion with situations of corrective rape where the perpetrator is raping another to punish them for a mistake or to "fix their attitude"

yeoldenut said:

And yes many of the gynomorphs in these pictures probably aren't even considered "women" by the viewers or the artists (unlike, say, a trans character would be), so it would be misleading to put a straight or gay label on it with the tagging system we have in place at the moment.

I don't understand what you mean by this particular part whatsoever

versperus said:
I don't understand what you mean by this particular part whatsoever

Ah man. I'm definitely not the most eloquent person in the world.

Lots of intersex characters are treated like a "third gender," like they're just born that way, unlike, say, a trans intersex character is. So tagging sex between a gynomorph and a female as "gay" or between a gynomorph and a male as "straight" would muddy things up. And that would be because people see these characters in different ways, like some people don't see gynomorphs as women, or andromorphs as men, while others do see them as such. That's pretty much what I was going for.

So by this logic, using the gay_to_straight tag wouldn't work for a situation between a female and a gynomorph, nor would straight_to_gay because what is or isn't gay or straight sex? That's how I see it, at least

yeoldenut said:
Ah man. I'm definitely not the most eloquent person in the world.

Lots of intersex characters are treated like a "third gender," like they're just born that way, unlike, say, a trans intersex character is. So tagging sex between a gynomorph and a female as "gay" or between a gynomorph and a male as "straight" would muddy things up. And that would be because people see these characters in different ways, like some people don't see gynomorphs as women, or andromorphs as men, while others do see them as such. That's pretty much what I was going for.

So by this logic, using the gay_to_straight tag wouldn't work for a situation between a female and a gynomorph, nor would straight_to_gay because what is or isn't gay or straight sex? That's how I see it, at least

ahhhh okay now I got you.

I think this should be an implication, not an alias. The former tag describes a specific subtype of the latter tag. I.E. There can be gay_correction, lesbian_correction, etc.