Topic: [APPROVED] Tag implication: catnip -> drugs

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The tag implication #44178 catnip -> drugs has been approved.

Reason: It's debatable if catnip is a drug or not but in furry art it's almost always treated as a drug (many using it as a kind of weed for cats)

EDIT: The tag implication catnip -> drugs (forum #333528) has been approved by @gattonero2001.

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Except it's not actually a drug.

Just because furries treat it as a drug in some art doesn't make Catnip itself a drug. It's the context of the art that makes it a drug, not the plant itself.

This is a weird implication, but I think it’s actually valid. Here’s why:

Catnip itself is not a drug, but it is a plant that produces a drug. The active ingredient in question is Nepetalactone. Now, you might argue that perhaps we should consider the plant separately from the drug it produces, but that isn’t really how things have been done thus far.

Marijuana is the prime example. Marijuana itself is not a drug: it’s a plant that produces drugs, namely Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and Cannabidiol (CBD) - at least those are the two that get all the attention. However, a lot of the use of the drugs tag falls under depictions of marijuana, whether it’s actively being used as a drug or is simply visible in the image due to the marijuana -> drugs implication.

Furthermore, all you need to get the drugs tag is a pot leaf, as that tag implies marijuana. Interestingly, the leaf itself is not even used as a drug. There is no meaningful amount of THC or CBD to be found in the leaf of the marijuana plant - these compounds are extracted from the flower. Still, the leaf is symbolic of the drug itself, hence the implication.

We have another example in the magic_mushrooms -> drugs implication. Again, the fungus itself (typically either Amanita muscaria or Psilocybe ) is not a drug. They produce drugs, namely ibotenic acid or psilocybin, respectively. The fungus (or plant, in the case of marijuana) is simply representative of the actual drug, as it’s unlikely that you’ll see any depictions of the psilocybin or THC compounds or chemical formulae in depictions of drug use. Likewise, the catnip plant is symbolic of Nepetalactone. The primary connotation most people have with catnip is the effect that Nepetalactone, a drug, has on cats. Most people seeing an image with catnip are going to associate it with those effects, just like with marijuana.

So, unless we want to also remove the marijuana and magic_mushrooms implications, then yes, catnip is also a drug.

It feels a bit strange to think of it that way, but it does seem valid in the context of e621.

While we're on the subject of catnip, IMO the existing implication to cat_food is not applicable.

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia said:
Common behaviors cats display when they sense the bruised leaves or stems of catnip are rubbing on the plant, rolling on the ground, pawing at it, licking it, and chewing it.

It is not commonly ingested, and even when it is, it is not a source of nutrition.

"Cat food" should be used for things like Fancy Feast, canned tuna and mice /jk.

While it's not commonly used, catnip does have a mild sedative effect on humans too - you can smoke it or make it into tea.

gattonero2001 said:
While we're on the subject of catnip, IMO the existing implication to cat_food is not applicable.

It is not commonly ingested, and even when it is, it is not a source of nutrition.

"Cat food" should be used for things like Fancy Feast, canned tuna and mice /jk.

Definitely not a good alias in my opinion, while it can be eaten I wouldn't regard it as food. cat_food is also very underused since cat_food -catnip only returns 15 results, and the other results make me unsure whether it's actually a useful tag at all.

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How would we know this is cat_food and not dog_food? (other than the fact a cat is eating it)

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faucet said:
While it's not commonly used, catnip does have a mild sedative effect on humans too - you can smoke it or make it into tea.

Definitely not a good alias in my opinion, while it can be eaten I wouldn't regard it as food. cat_food is also very underused since cat_food -catnip only returns 15 results, and the other results make me unsure whether it's actually a useful tag at all.

post #2584835 post #911313 post #2695759

How would we know this is cat_food and not dog_food? (other than the fact a cat is eating it)

maybe both cat and dog food could be aliased to kibble?