Topic: [REJECTED] inner_ear colors BUR

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #884 has been rejected.

create implication white_inner_ear_fluff (11727) -> white_inner_ear (12871)
create implication light_inner_ear_fluff (134) -> light_inner_ear (665)
create implication light_inner_ear_fluff (134) -> inner_ear_fluff (135518)
create implication tan_inner_ear_fluff (2072) -> tan_inner_ear (7552)
create implication blue_inner_ear_fluff (1003) -> blue_inner_ear (5051)
create implication brown_inner_ear_fluff (732) -> brown_inner_ear (3355)
create implication grey_inner_ear_fluff (1514) -> grey_inner_ear (3593)
create implication yellow_inner_ear_fluff (634) -> yellow_inner_ear (4663)
create implication orange_inner_ear_fluff (599) -> orange_inner_ear (1373)
create implication red_inner_ear_fluff (937) -> red_inner_ear (2308)
create implication pink_inner_ear_fluff (585) -> pink_inner_ear (18690)
create implication green_inner_ear_fluff (421) -> green_inner_ear (1529)
create implication purple_inner_ear_fluff (369) -> purple_inner_ear (2311)
create implication multicolored_inner_ear_fluff (22) -> multicolored_inner_ear (124)
create implication multicolored_inner_ear_fluff (22) -> inner_ear_fluff (135518)
create implication dark_inner_ear_fluff (4) -> dark_inner_ear (244)
create implication dark_inner_ear_fluff (4) -> inner_ear_fluff (135518)
create alias burlywood_inner_ear_fluff (0) -> tan_inner_ear_fluff (2072)
create alias wheat_inner_ear_fluff (0) -> tan_inner_ear_fluff (2072)
create alias multi_tone_inner_ear_fluff (0) -> multicolored_inner_ear_fluff (22)
create alias silver_inner_ear_fluff (1) -> grey_inner_ear_fluff (1514)
create implication pink_inner_ear (18690) -> pink_body (150739)
create implication white_inner_ear (12871) -> white_body (787219)
create implication blue_inner_ear (5051) -> blue_body (386624)
create implication tan_inner_ear (7552) -> tan_body (224045)
create implication grey_inner_ear (3593) -> grey_body (353573)
create implication brown_inner_ear (3355) -> brown_body (457822)
create implication yellow_inner_ear (4663) -> yellow_body (256455)
create implication black_inner_ear (3571) -> black_body (393986)
create implication purple_inner_ear (2311) -> purple_body (176547)
create implication red_inner_ear (2308) -> red_body (177317)
create implication green_inner_ear (1529) -> green_body (175683)
create implication light_inner_ear (665) -> light_body (34283)
create implication orange_inner_ear (1373) -> orange_body (224214)
create implication multicolored_inner_ear (124) -> multicolored_body (372244)
create implication dark_inner_ear (244) -> dark_body (37054)
create alias teal_inner_ear (187) -> green_inner_ear (1529)
create alias turquoise_inner_ear (10) -> blue_inner_ear (5051)
create alias burlywood_inner_ear (1) -> tan_inner_ear (7552)
create alias wheat_inner_ear (6) -> tan_inner_ear (7552)
create alias dark_brown_inner_ear (1) -> brown_inner_ear (3355)
create alias cyan_inner_ear (12) -> blue_inner_ear (5051)
create alias silver_inner_ear (4) -> grey_inner_ear (3593)
create alias multi_tone_inner_ear (1) -> multicolored_inner_ear (124)
create alias violet_red_inner_ear (0) -> purple_inner_ear (2311)
create alias cream_inner_ear (4) -> tan_inner_ear (7552)

Reason: This bur is based on the implications of body markings, and how other colors are handled

I don't know how to handle "khaki_/-fur/-body/-inner_ear" though. It's a range from tan to green. I'd say it should either be an invalid tag or aliased to "khaki/-_fur-/-_inner_ear-/-body_-(disambiguation)" because its to vague.
Also, "peru_/-fur/-body/-inner_ear" it's a range from tan to brown

EDIT: The bulk update request #884 (forum #309625) has been rejected by @DubsTheFox.

Updated by auto moderator

  • It might not be good to use the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_fur, since inner_ear_fluff could also be used for characters with feathers and no fur.
  • Instead of directly implicating [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_body, it might be better to utilize the implication chain [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears -> [color]_body.
    • Should the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear also be used? Utilizing this would alter the implication chain to instead be [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears -> [color]_body (for example, this would create the implication chain black_inner_ear_fluff -> black_inner_ear -> black_ears -> black_body).

Should [color]_inner_ear_fluff imply [color]_body, even indirectly? Take for example,
post #2594420
would white_body really be a relevant tag simply because she has white_inner_ear_fluff?

Good point there, it might be better to simplify the implication chain to [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears instead.

Honestly, the *_fur and *_feathers implications to *_body seem wrong to me. A fur coat or other furred accessory item wouldn't be a body, and feathers can be used for ornamentation, and it would be useful and otherwise valid to tag the color of fur or feathers you can see. The singular form [color]_feather doesn't imply [color]_body, but if there's a collection of feathers, the singular form wouldn't be right or obvious (and there's no similar "singular" exception for fur). I get why the implications are there, because they're most often right and most people won't bother with [color]_body tags, but sometimes they're not, causing some posts to either be improperly tagged or not have a relevant tag.

d.d.m. said:

  • It might not be good to use the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_fur, since inner_ear_fluff could also be used for characters with feathers and no fur.

That's true.

d.d.m. said:
Should the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear also be used? Utilizing this would alter the implication chain to instead be [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears -

At first, I would have said no. I would have tagged this post: post #2594420 with white_inner_ear_fluff and pink_inner_ear. but it is, in fact, a part of the inner ear. so this would be better, I guess.

watsit said:
would white_body really be a relevant tag simply because she has white_inner_ear_fluff?

I would say yes. I always tag *_markings, *_stripes,dipstick_ears + color_/-body/-fur/-etc plz say thats not wrong o_o' I'd have to go over some posts I have changed

I was about to edit the BUR, but it looks like I can't. I have to make a new one, right?

dubsthefox said:
I would say yes. I always tag *_markings, *_stripes,dipstick_ears + color_/-body/-fur/-etc plz say thats not wrong o_o' I'd have to go over some posts I have changed

For the most part, that's fine since markings, stripes, dipstick ears/tail are part of the character's body. But inner ear fluff is sometimes just a ball of fluff coming from inside the ear, as in the example, and doesn't really represent the body. It'd be like saying I have a black_body because I have some black fluff growing out of my nose, while all of my skin is a different color.

And on the topic of fur more generally, you have things like post #2746601 in which the character has blue scales and thus has a blue body, but has a mane and some chin and tail tufts of white fur. I wouldn't say he has a white_body because of the mane and tufts, any more than I have a black_body because of black_hair, but that's what white_fur causes to be implicated.