Topic: [REJECTED] inner_ear colors BUR

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #884 has been rejected.

create implication white_inner_ear_fluff (11756) -> white_inner_ear (12902)
create implication light_inner_ear_fluff (134) -> light_inner_ear (665)
create implication light_inner_ear_fluff (134) -> inner_ear_fluff (135695)
create implication tan_inner_ear_fluff (2075) -> tan_inner_ear (7566)
create implication blue_inner_ear_fluff (1007) -> blue_inner_ear (5059)
create implication brown_inner_ear_fluff (734) -> brown_inner_ear (3358)
create implication grey_inner_ear_fluff (1517) -> grey_inner_ear (3599)
create implication yellow_inner_ear_fluff (636) -> yellow_inner_ear (4670)
create implication orange_inner_ear_fluff (601) -> orange_inner_ear (1374)
create implication red_inner_ear_fluff (946) -> red_inner_ear (2310)
create implication pink_inner_ear_fluff (588) -> pink_inner_ear (18718)
create implication green_inner_ear_fluff (423) -> green_inner_ear (1529)
create implication purple_inner_ear_fluff (369) -> purple_inner_ear (2314)
create implication multicolored_inner_ear_fluff (22) -> multicolored_inner_ear (124)
create implication multicolored_inner_ear_fluff (22) -> inner_ear_fluff (135695)
create implication dark_inner_ear_fluff (4) -> dark_inner_ear (244)
create implication dark_inner_ear_fluff (4) -> inner_ear_fluff (135695)
create alias burlywood_inner_ear_fluff (0) -> tan_inner_ear_fluff (2075)
create alias wheat_inner_ear_fluff (0) -> tan_inner_ear_fluff (2075)
create alias multi_tone_inner_ear_fluff (0) -> multicolored_inner_ear_fluff (22)
create alias silver_inner_ear_fluff (1) -> grey_inner_ear_fluff (1517)
create implication pink_inner_ear (18718) -> pink_body (150871)
create implication white_inner_ear (12902) -> white_body (788156)
create implication blue_inner_ear (5059) -> blue_body (386985)
create implication tan_inner_ear (7566) -> tan_body (224364)
create implication grey_inner_ear (3599) -> grey_body (354064)
create implication brown_inner_ear (3358) -> brown_body (458352)
create implication yellow_inner_ear (4670) -> yellow_body (256734)
create implication black_inner_ear (3575) -> black_body (394468)
create implication purple_inner_ear (2314) -> purple_body (176731)
create implication red_inner_ear (2310) -> red_body (177521)
create implication green_inner_ear (1529) -> green_body (175887)
create implication light_inner_ear (665) -> light_body (34314)
create implication orange_inner_ear (1374) -> orange_body (224513)
create implication multicolored_inner_ear (124) -> multicolored_body (372679)
create implication dark_inner_ear (244) -> dark_body (37085)
create alias teal_inner_ear (187) -> green_inner_ear (1529)
create alias turquoise_inner_ear (10) -> blue_inner_ear (5059)
create alias burlywood_inner_ear (1) -> tan_inner_ear (7566)
create alias wheat_inner_ear (6) -> tan_inner_ear (7566)
create alias dark_brown_inner_ear (1) -> brown_inner_ear (3358)
create alias cyan_inner_ear (12) -> blue_inner_ear (5059)
create alias silver_inner_ear (4) -> grey_inner_ear (3599)
create alias multi_tone_inner_ear (1) -> multicolored_inner_ear (124)
create alias violet_red_inner_ear (0) -> purple_inner_ear (2314)
create alias cream_inner_ear (4) -> tan_inner_ear (7566)

Reason: This bur is based on the implications of body markings, and how other colors are handled

I don't know how to handle "khaki_/-fur/-body/-inner_ear" though. It's a range from tan to green. I'd say it should either be an invalid tag or aliased to "khaki/-_fur-/-_inner_ear-/-body_-(disambiguation)" because its to vague.
Also, "peru_/-fur/-body/-inner_ear" it's a range from tan to brown

EDIT: The bulk update request #884 (forum #309625) has been rejected by @DubsTheFox.

Updated by auto moderator

  • It might not be good to use the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_fur, since inner_ear_fluff could also be used for characters with feathers and no fur.
  • Instead of directly implicating [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_body, it might be better to utilize the implication chain [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears -> [color]_body.
    • Should the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear also be used? Utilizing this would alter the implication chain to instead be [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears -> [color]_body (for example, this would create the implication chain black_inner_ear_fluff -> black_inner_ear -> black_ears -> black_body).

Should [color]_inner_ear_fluff imply [color]_body, even indirectly? Take for example,
post #2594420
would white_body really be a relevant tag simply because she has white_inner_ear_fluff?

Good point there, it might be better to simplify the implication chain to [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears instead.

Honestly, the *_fur and *_feathers implications to *_body seem wrong to me. A fur coat or other furred accessory item wouldn't be a body, and feathers can be used for ornamentation, and it would be useful and otherwise valid to tag the color of fur or feathers you can see. The singular form [color]_feather doesn't imply [color]_body, but if there's a collection of feathers, the singular form wouldn't be right or obvious (and there's no similar "singular" exception for fur). I get why the implications are there, because they're most often right and most people won't bother with [color]_body tags, but sometimes they're not, causing some posts to either be improperly tagged or not have a relevant tag.

d.d.m. said:

  • It might not be good to use the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_fur, since inner_ear_fluff could also be used for characters with feathers and no fur.

That's true.

d.d.m. said:
Should the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear also be used? Utilizing this would alter the implication chain to instead be [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears -

At first, I would have said no. I would have tagged this post: post #2594420 with white_inner_ear_fluff and pink_inner_ear. but it is, in fact, a part of the inner ear. so this would be better, I guess.

watsit said:
would white_body really be a relevant tag simply because she has white_inner_ear_fluff?

I would say yes. I always tag *_markings, *_stripes,dipstick_ears + color_/-body/-fur/-etc plz say thats not wrong o_o' I'd have to go over some posts I have changed

I was about to edit the BUR, but it looks like I can't. I have to make a new one, right?

dubsthefox said:
I would say yes. I always tag *_markings, *_stripes,dipstick_ears + color_/-body/-fur/-etc plz say thats not wrong o_o' I'd have to go over some posts I have changed

For the most part, that's fine since markings, stripes, dipstick ears/tail are part of the character's body. But inner ear fluff is sometimes just a ball of fluff coming from inside the ear, as in the example, and doesn't really represent the body. It'd be like saying I have a black_body because I have some black fluff growing out of my nose, while all of my skin is a different color.

And on the topic of fur more generally, you have things like post #2746601 in which the character has blue scales and thus has a blue body, but has a mane and some chin and tail tufts of white fur. I wouldn't say he has a white_body because of the mane and tufts, any more than I have a black_body because of black_hair, but that's what white_fur causes to be implicated.