Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions
The tag implication #38427 holding_knife -> holding_object has been approved.
Reason: Knife is an object. Change my mind.
EDIT: The tag implication holding_knife -> holding_object (forum #307592) has been approved by @Millcore.
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+1. Honestly, we're probably in need of a holding_object BUR.
I propose instead something like,
holding_knife > holding_bladed_object
holding_dagger > holding_bladed_object
holding_sword > holding_bladed_object
holding_axe > holding_bladed_object
holding_bladed_object > holding_weapon
versperus said:
I propose instead something like,
holding_knife > holding_bladed_object
holding_dagger > holding_bladed_object
holding_sword > holding_bladed_object
holding_axe > holding_bladed_object
holding_bladed_object > holding_weapon
Do we need a holding_bladed_object tag?
monsterbomb10010 said:
Reason: Knife is an object. Change my mind.
Not when his name is Mack. ;p
versperus said:
holding_bladed_object > holding_weapon
My only note on this would be that not every bladed object is necessarily a weapon.
acidph said:
My only note on this would be that not every bladed object is necessarily a weapon.
they can all easily be used as one
strikerman said:
Yeah, but so can a hammer. Doesn't mean all hammers are weapons.
I would consider them blunt weapons yes. They were war devises long before they were tools
versperus said:
I would consider them blunt weapons yes. They were war devises long before they were tools
primitive hammers definitely existed long before war hammers
strikerman said:
primitive hammers definitely existed long before war hammers
hammers have existed probably longer then the modern human race, and you know peeps been hitting eachother with them all that time. We're going off on a tangent though.
versperus said:
I propose instead something like,
holding_knife > holding_bladed_object
holding_dagger > holding_bladed_object
holding_sword > holding_bladed_object
holding_axe > holding_bladed_object
holding_bladed_object > holding_weapon
Holding_melee_weapon is also a pre-existing tag. I'd personally vote for utilizing it, rather than a holding_bladed_object tag. Holding_axe, holding_hammer, and holding_knife should implicate straight to holding_object, though, for the aforementioned reasons of them being used as tools / utensils and not always weapons. They would have to be individually tagged as a weapon or tool/utensil on a case-by-case basis.
If you want to argue that hammers, axes, and knives are also innately weapons, then I'd like to remind you that improvised weapons are a thing. Anything from glass bottles, to chairs, or even rocks could be considered weapons, as long as it's used to deal some sort of damage to someone or something. Just because it can be used as a weapon, doesn't mean it should innately be considered one on its own.
vulkalu said:
Holding_melee_weapon is also a pre-existing tag. I'd personally vote for utilizing it, rather than a holding_bladed_object tag. Holding_axe, holding_hammer, and holding_knife should implicate straight to holding_object, though, for the aforementioned reasons of them being used as tools / utensils and not always weapons. They would have to be individually tagged as a weapon or tool/utensil on a case-by-case basis.If you want to argue that hammers, axes, and knives are also innately weapons, then I'd like to remind you that improvised weapons are a thing. Anything from glass bottles, to chairs, or even rocks could be considered weapons, as long as it's used to deal some sort of damage to someone or something. Just because it can be used as a weapon, doesn't mean it should innately be considered one on its own.
reason I was suggesting bladed object is due to the fact not every weapon has a blade, guns, clubs ect.
