Topic: Alternative Gender/Sex Flowchart

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

After learning a bit about decision tree algorithms, I decided to see if I can apply to this to gender tagging

Using this program, I was able to generate this decision tree:

body = male : pussy = present : penis = present : maleherm penis = absent/unknown : andromorph pussy = absent/unknown : male body = female : penis = present : pussy = present : herm pussy = absent/unknown : breasts = present/unknown : gynomorph breasts = absent : male (+ girly) penis = absent/unknown : female body = unknown : penis = present : pussy = present : herm pussy = absent/unknown : breasts = present : gynomorph breasts = absent/unknown : male penis = absent/unknown : breasts = present : female breasts = absent/unknown : pussy = present : female pussy = absent/unknown : ambiguous gender

Maybe it could be useful for those having trouble correctly tagging genders?

strikerman said:
Could you explain decision tree algorithms for us laypeople?

Super basically, it generates branches based on which attribute provides the most information. For example, in this case, the body type provides the most information on the resultant gender. This repeats until there is only one option based on the given info

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crusty_fire said:
For example, in this case, the body type provides the most information on the resultant gender.

Bodytype is the most open-to-interpretation element of gender tagging, and moving it to the first check might just muddy everything more than it already is, and may further cement the defaulting of potentially-ambiguous bodies featuring pussy into andromorph. I've been a vocal opponent of this.

Bodytype is just unreliable in a non-realist art medium. Even in the current state of being the final check, it's been the basis for both the Mikhaila_Kirov and Reggie_(Whygena) tagging controversies, and placing more weight on it is likely to cause more complaints.

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magnuseffect said:
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Bodytype is the most open-to-interpretation element of gender tagging, and moving it to the first check might just muddy everything more than it already is, and may further cement the defaulting of potentially-ambiguous bodies featuring pussy into andromorph. I've been a vocal opponent of this.

Bodytype is just unreliable in a non-realist art medium. Even in the current state of being the final check, it's been the basis for both the Mikhaila_Kirov and Reggie_(Whygena) tagging controversies, and placing more weight on it is likely to cause more complaints.

I get that it can cause some controversy, but wouldn't the fact that body type causes so much controversy imply that it is probably the most important attribute in tagging gender?

crusty_fire said:
I get that it can cause some controversy, but wouldn't the fact that body type causes so much controversy imply that it is probably the most important attribute in tagging gender?

No?
It's only the determining factor when everything else is already unreliable, so the controversies come from edge-cases in the first place.

But my issues mostly stem from the line between "male" and "female" bodies being blurry as hell in fictional artwork. There's no hard standard, and particularly for female bodies most structural indicators get thrown right out of consideration because you can draw men with unrealistically-feminine structure.
From what I've seen the only thing actually taken into account with body type is whether a character has visible pectoral muscle.