Topic: Tag Alias: armaniamothe_(artist) -> armaniamothe

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

-1 "*_(artist)" tags in general are used to clarify redundancies (such as characters, series, species, companies ect. sharing a name with the artist), and as such they could be useful on the future.

Also:

I - do you have anything showing that the artist really answer to all these options?

II - if the astist's name is composed of two words wouldn't it be better if one of the separated versions was the default name used on the site?

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O16 said:
-1 "*_(artist)" tags in general are used to clarify redundancies

There is literally nothing to clarify, _(artist) has no use in this scenario. [/quote]

I - do you have anything showing that the artist really answer to all these options?

https://e621.net/artist/show?name=armaniamothe

II - if the astist's name is composed of two words wouldn't it be better if one of the separated versions was the default name used on the site?

2/4 sites is set up using no spaces.

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Versperus said:
There is literally nothing to clarify, _(artist) has no use in this scenario.

It isn't an written rule (well, someone most likely wrote it at some point, since the communication on this site is exclusively done through text, but that isn't want I mean).

I just meant that it would be better to just keep "*_(artist)" tags unaliased in case there is a need for disambiguation down the line; you could very well just empty the "armaniamothe_(artist)" tag and alias the other ones.

Versperus said:
https://e621.net/artist/show?name=armaniamothe

I see, thank you.

Versperus said:
2/4 sites is set up using no spaces.

Well, 50% - 50% doesn't exactly work neither in favor nor against either option.

I am just saying that a if the name is composed of two words, and the artist accept a separed version, then it makes more sence (in my mind) to prioritize the separed version; however that is just my opinion.

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Well, 50% - 50% doesn't exactly work neither in favor nor against either option.

Its more of a 50% - 25% as the other two are only used once.
Also, not aliasing away redundancies in light an implausible just leaves open the door for images being separately tagged with a similar tag due to them simply not being connected. It's better to un-alias something in the future if it is needed, than to leave it unaliased.

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leomole

Former Staff

O16 said:
-1 "*_(artist)" tags in general are used to clarify redundancies (such as characters, series, species, companies ect. sharing a name with the artist), and as such they could be useful on the future.

They're used to clarify ambiguities or anticipate plausible future ones. But adding _(artist) should not be the default action. That's what tag types are for.

armenia_(artist) would be preferred over armenia. But armaniamothe makes a lot more sense than armaniamothe_(artist).

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Versperus said:
Its more of a 50% - 25% as the other two are only used once.

By "50% - 50%" I was referring to separated × together in general, not to the specific forms.

Also after examining the sources you provided with a little more atention it became clear that the conjoined version is only used as a title for the artist's pages, while the artist presentes themselves using the separated name right bellow.

Additionally, in the sites that support the use of tags with spacing between words (such as tumblr) the artist seems to only write their name separated when tagging their work.

Giving the "new" evindece I will need to hold my position.

Versperus said:
Also, not aliasing away redundancies in light an implausible just leaves open the door for images being separately tagged with a similar tag due to them simply not being connected. It's better to un-alias something in the future if it is needed, than to leave it unaliased.

Hmmm... I guess you have a point.

leomole said:
They're used to clarify ambiguities or anticipate plausible future ones. But adding _(artist) should not be the default action. That's what tag types are for.

armenia_(artist) would be preferred over armenia. But armaniamothe makes a lot more sense than armaniamothe_(artist).

I wasn't suggesting to keep the didambiguated version as the main tag, I merely said not to alias this version, but to empty it instead, so it could be used in case a disambiguation is proven necessary someday; however I no longer believe this would be best course of action.

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