Topic: Dreamon aren't digimon

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

These are NOT digimon: https://e621.net/post/show/1767176/all_fours-anal-anal_penetration-animated-bisexual-

They are a species of DREAM DEMON created by Whygena, thus, dreamon. Right now the dreamon tag is implicated to the digimon tags. (Despite the dreamon it's seemingly referring to not even being a digimon, but an appmon from Appli Monsters)

The implications to digimon should be removed, if posts of the Appli Monsters dreamon start showing up, separate tags can be made.

Updated by Clawstripe

Actually, there's a digimon called Dreamon. We don't seem to have any images of that digimon, though, so I'm not sure why the implication was made.

Updated by anonymous

Furrin_Gok said:
Actually, there's a digimon called Dreamon. We don't seem to have any images of that digimon, though, so I'm not sure why the implication was made.

Because solving a problem before it happens,
Conclusion:

tag should be Dreamon_(whygena), also whygena_(oc) shouldn't be a tag so that needs to be changed.

Updated by anonymous

Furrin_Gok said:
Actually, there's a digimon called Dreamon. We don't seem to have any images of that digimon, though, so I'm not sure why the implication was made.

The page you linked clearly says it's an appmon, if whoever implicated it actually did their research, they would've implicated appmon as a species along with the appmon copyright. They clearly just saw "mon" at he end of the name and assumed it was a digimon.

Regardless, this was just a small mishap. Easily fixed. Whoever implicated it was just a little bit of a goof.

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Zreig said:
The page you linked clearly says it's an appmon, if whoever implicated it actually did their research, they would've implicated appmon as a species along with the appmon copyright. They clearly just saw "mon" at he end of the name and assumed it was a digimon.

Regardless, this was just a small mishap. Easily fixed. Whoever implicated it was just a little bit of a goof.

Appmon copyright is digimon copyright. They only need to be separated at species, not copyright.

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Versperus said:
Because solving a problem before it happens,
Conclusion:

tag should be Dreamon_(whygena), also whygena_(oc) shouldn't be a tag so that needs to be changed.

Whygena_(oc) is Whygena's fursona, it will continue to be a character that Whygena will draw.

All the creatures in the image I linked are dreamon, they come in different shapes and sizes and colors, but the pink one is Whygena's fursona, so having a separate tag is necessary.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Appmon copyright is digimon copyright. They only need to be separated at species, not copyright.

Appmon is a separate trademark and universe that's meant to be a spiritual successor to Digimon, just like how each digimon series has its own tag, it should have its own copyright tag too instead of just being lumped in with Digimon. This is a discussion for a separate thread, though.

Updated by anonymous

Do we actually need a distinction between Appmon and Digimon as far as species go? They're apparently both digital monsters inside the Digimon franchise.

Updated by anonymous

Zreig said:
Whygena_(oc) is Whygena's fursona, it will continue to be a character that Whygena will draw.

All the creatures in the image I linked are dreamon, they come in different shapes and sizes and colors, but the pink one is Whygena's fursona, so having a separate tag is necessary.

I messaged Whygena in regards to this as thus far to me it looks more like Dreamon is being used as a character name, and as whygena_(oc) it should be whygena_(character) if that is the case of character name.

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SnowWolf

Former Staff

Furrin_Gok said:
Actually, there's a digimon called Dreamon. We don't seem to have any images of that digimon, though, so I'm not sure why the implication was made.

Because we COULD make aliases/implications as they come up.... or try to future proof them. Maybe no one's ever drawn a red crested hyena before, but it's a hyena, it's visually distinct, someone might do it one day. Maybe they won't. or maybe there will be a significant red crested hyena in the next lion king movie that will get people interested in red crested hyenas, or in hyenas in general.

There's no dang reason to not get a list of all "digimon" and "pokemon" and make sure that they all have the right aliases.

Zreig said:
The page you linked clearly says it's an appmon, if whoever implicated it actually did their research, they would've implicated appmon as a species along with the appmon copyright. They clearly just saw "mon" at he end of the name and assumed it was a digimon.

Regardless, this was just a small mishap. Easily fixed. Whoever implicated it was just a little bit of a goof.

Appmon. let me google this shit.

appmon are digital creatures (monsters one might say) based on mobile apps. They have AI, they are life forms born between the "real world" and the "digital world"... they are similar to digimon, but have "exclusive features" and there are as many apppmon as there are apps. Some have human "buddies."

Appmon appear in Digimon Universe Appli Monsters, which is the 8th animated series of Digimon, which originally ran from Oct 2016 to Sept 2017. The story there is that.. well, basically,... they're the digimon of the new series.

So... .at least to my perspective, appmon are basically digimon, but with a different name. Implying that they are all appmon would be 100% as having them imply Digimon_Universe:_App_Monsters or something, except that there is likely to video games too, would be slightly inaccurate.

I would say that, at best, the appmon should imply Appli_monster which implies digimon_(series) but, really, it's fine as is. appmon are just this 'generation' of digimon's name for digimon.

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Versperus said:
I messaged Whygena in regards to this as thus far to me it looks more like Dreamon is being used as a character name, and as whygena_(oc) it should be whygena_(character) if that is the case of character name.

I'd go with whygena_(fursona), personally, it would make it clear that the character is an avatar.

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Ratte

Former Staff

oh no the minorest of issues clearly the world is ending

nevermind the fact that I had to go through a list of over 400 digimon to add implications where needed for a long-overdue standardization to a collective *_species tag

let's instead just insult the person who did all the work out of their spare time because someone's fictional species got caught up in some other fictional species

that makes all the sense

appli monsters are just mobile app digimon and are not really worth special designation to anything but the appmon_(species) tag which implies digimon_(species)

you will survive

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NotMeNotYou said:
Do we actually need a distinction between Appmon and Digimon as far as species go? They're apparently both digital monsters inside the Digimon franchise.

The have different names and have no direct relations, along with several unique traits, so yes. Conflating them would like tagging alligators as crocodiles and just saying they're basically the same thing.

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Ratte said:
oh no the minorest of issues clearly the world is ending

nevermind the fact that I had to go through a list of over 400 digimon to add implications where needed for a long-overdue standardization to a collective *_species tag

let's instead just insult the person who did all the work out of their spare time because someone's fictional species got caught up in some other fictional species

that makes all the sense

appli monsters are just phone app digimon and are not really worth special designation to anything but the appmon_(species) tag which implies digimon_(species)

you will survive

Appmon have been referred to as distinct from digimon in multiple sources. They're simply two different lines of a.i. that came about separately.

I was just bringing attention to a minor issue so it could be discussed and fixed, I didn't come here to complain, I came here to debate. Everyone here has already come to a conclusion as to what to do in terms of tagging and it is already being carried out.

Your anger is understandable but uncalled for, I didn't know you had to do maintenance on so many tags. I just thought it was a silly, stupid mistake.

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Zreig said:
Appmon have been referred to as distinct from digimon in multiple sources. They're simply two different lines of a.i. that came about separately.

I was just bringing attention to a minor issue so it could be discussed and fixed, I didn't come here to complain, I came here to debate. Everyone here has already come to a conclusion as to what to do in terms of tagging and it is already being carried out.

Your anger is understandable but uncalled for, I didn't know you had to do maintenance on so many tags. I just thought it was a silly, stupid mistake.

https://e621.net/mod_action?moderator=ratte&body=&type=approved_alias
https://e621.net/mod_action?moderator=ratte&body=&type=created_alias

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Ratte

Former Staff

Zreig said:
Appmon have been referred to as distinct from digimon in multiple sources. They're simply two different lines of a.i. that came about separately.

I was just bringing attention to a minor issue so it could be discussed and fixed, I didn't come here to complain, I came here to debate. Everyone here has already come to a conclusion as to what to do in terms of tagging and it is already being carried out.

Your anger is understandable but uncalled for, I didn't know you had to do maintenance on so many tags. I just thought it was a silly, stupid mistake.

consider the following

If someone's super special made-up animal gets caught in it then it can get suffixed away to something else that won't get the implication.

I really don't see a point in keeping them more separate than they are. Appmon appear to me as a more specific kind of digimon, in this case specific to phone/mobile apps and already receive an appmon_(species) tag, which again implies digimon_(species). The most I'm willing to humor is the removal of that direct implication and instead putting it under the umbrella digimon copyright tag because they can't decide if it's its own thing or not considering "It is the seventh official installment of the Digimon franchise, but also considered as its own separate franchise from the original." You can't both be and not be part of a franchise.

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Versperus said:
https://e621.net/mod_action?moderator=ratte&body=&type=approved_alias
https://e621.net/mod_action?moderator=ratte&body=&type=created_alias

I know Ratte does a ton of work everyday, admins like them are what keep the quality of the site so high. I simply had no idea Ratte was the one responsible for the mishap and they're acting like it was a personal offense and blowing the whole thing up. Let's just move on before things devolve. (How come Whygena is always the cause of shitstorms? -_-)

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Ratte said:
consider the following

If someone's super special made-up animal gets caught in it then it can get suffixed away to something else that won't get the implication.

I really don't see a point in keeping them more separate than they are. Appmon appear to me as a more specific kind of digimon, in this case specific to phone/mobile apps and already receive an appmon_(species) tag, which again implies digimon_(species). The most I'm willing to humor is the removal of that direct implication and instead putting it under the umbrella digimon copyright tag because they can't decide if it's its own thing or not considering "It is the seventh official installment of the Digimon franchise, but also considered as its own separate franchise from the original." You can't both be and not be part of a franchise.

Yeah, the Digimon fandom has been dabating this since Appli was announced.

The show literally has Digimon in its full title, but the word digimon isn't spoken once in the entire show as far as I know. I didn't even know it was an actual part of the Digimon series until recently.

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MissChu said:
They're basically just demons, do we need another new special species tag for every made up creature?

and charrs are basically just felines, nevrean are basically just birds, sawsbuck are basically just deer, minotaurs are basically just bulls and so on. lets alias them all away because afterall what the fuck we do with tags for made up creatures when we have perfectly fine generic tags for them.

Updated by anonymous

MissChu said:
They're basically just demons, do we need another new special species tag for every made up creature?

A third of all the stuff on this site is made up creatures.

Updated by anonymous

While in-universe they may be a distinct category, they're still effectively the same class of *thing*. They're digital beings that interact with humans, can form a physical body in the real world under certain circumstances, gains power from a partnership with a human, and evolves dramatically into stronger forms.

An implication seems like a good compromise.
The series implication like the other seasons is obvious too.

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